Job Adjustments and Additions Part I (03/26/2009)

[Darkyrm]

Thats one heeeell of a buff to Whm, I really got excited reading it and Im not even Whm those abilities and spells finally make Whm stand out from other jobs that can heal, they make them more eficient and useful at endgame and even add abilities that makes them more dessirable in merit parties.

Im not sure if well get a Blm update since they only talked about Rdm, Whm, Bst and Smn for this update iirc, but if it gets a buff like this in the future Im drooling allready :O___

Hoping SE doesnt screw Rdm update, just give me "mah meleez update allready" (to solo/low man random things dont care too much about using it in party), some tweak to the core job even if they are minimal would be nice, but Im quite sure the update is going to be melee oriented since Rdm is still really strong doing their job.

This update is shaping really really nice.

[shaddix]

who is going to do the enmity testing on these new spells ; ;?

[Shinta]

Obviously amazing, but so much of it is still a mystery. Seems like you wouldn't really ever use Afflatus: Misery unless you were meleeing. Or maybe if you're in AoE range, standing on a wyrm's feet taking AoE damage, Cura and Esuna would shine?

Cura seems like a mystery.

Sacrifice seems like a mystery, why remove debuffs by absorbing them as opposed to just removing them? Does it remove multiple debuffs? It's a spell, not a JA so it's not saving MP.

I'm thinking Holy just got a huge boost since it resets all stored HP cured from Solace. So, you don't nuke often, but when you do it does heavy damage? Sounds amazing.

Banish boosted based on the last hit taken, also very strange.

Esuna boosted by damage taken, so it seems to be for melee WHMs.

Obviously Auspice is for meleeing, the Accuracy bonus on it will help WHM and the subtle blow ... and the enlight, wow.

R3 is 100 mp cheaper, shorter cast, wow. Just blown away, but still waiting to see how alot of this stuff will actually be used. Mainly, Afflatus: Misery, Cura, Sacrifice.

Also, here's hoping you can use Afflatus: Solace and Light Arts at the same time. My poor macros .... geez, I have some work to do.

[Destinye]

Hoping SE doesnt screw Rdm update

Seriously..people and their auto-pessimism button -.-

[Pooky]

Holy Crap, I might actually consider finishing whm now.

[shaddix]

Cura seems like a mystery.

Esuna boosted by damage taken, so it seems to be for melee WHMs.

Obviously Auspice is for meleeing, the Accuracy bonus on it will help WHM and the subtle blow ... and the enlight, wow.

This stuff looks good for salvage. Discoid etc.

[Meian]

The butt-hurt WHM/BLMs need to adapt or die. WHM/SCH is an amazing combo. You can pop out a quarter of your HP as MP every few minutes, boost your enfeebling skill, get 10% MP savings on every spell with the additional chance to get a Conserve MP proc, get 10% casting speed reduction on every spell, get a 50% cost (with additional chance at a Conserve MP proc) or 50% cast/recast time for a spell every two minutes, and the ability to change your books to have a B+ Dark Skill (which is much better than RDM's D Dark Skill) for Drain and Aspir every minute.

Yes, it sucks to lose Warp, Tractor, and Escape, but SCH sub is one hell of a tasty package to make up for it. There are some occasions when WHMs should sub BLM over SCH (like when they know a lot of tractors will be needed or they need to warp home), but otherwise /SCH is a far better sub job that Square got right. (The second time.)

qft seriously I am tired of having to tell people this but they are so stubborn. I have to openly say shit during events like when people say "out of mp" I go ahead and say "got over half still" or I am the only one raising on a constant basis (if major death/wipe for whatever retarded reason).

Also, the whole SCH going to QQ is rather stupid to those who believe it. I played SCH before their update to 75 and I was happy at the update but I didn't run around saying I was better than a WHM or BLM but a good hybrid of both if it came down to a choice and as a team supporter. There were people "lolSCH" before the update and now they think that SCH thought "lolwhm lolblm" ? Good try.

I am really happy for this update as I like my WHM a lot even though I have SCH also. Just have to see how the timers work on these new spells and the new calculations. What intriuged me also was Holy update. I hope it turns out good again especially if it resets everything stored. Still no Bar-light/dark though meh...


Edit:
--Hoping to hear for BLM to get something else. So far, SE is enjoying the "whole 1 min recast JA that lasts a long time" style as a new way to help a job which may be the case for BLM and may throw in a spell or two. I retired BLM long ago but still thinking they could use something decent.
--I could careless for RDM really, it is the nearly most done job.
--PUP still needs that A.I cast time fix for their spells (keeping -na/drain/aspir etc seperate from cure/nukes) especially after they finally admit that it needs work.
--MORE SAM ... er... right...
--AVATARS ehhhh would be nice to get them finally lol TOAU was over a while back >>

[Skinwalker]

What the fuck why??? Like the damn game isn't easy enough already.

Yeah right I thought the same as I read what updates the WHM will get. But overall it sounds good. Well guess we have just to wait how the first hands-on experience will be posted here.

[Thorgridson]

Makes me want to play WHM again for HNMs.

I never thought of SCH or /SCH as being better healers in that matter, after the years it just turned boring -.-

But Esuna ..gaaawwwdddddddd

Curious about the rest^^

[Izzy]

What a huge bucket of win. Hopefully this accuracy + thing works out well for me hahah.

Shit that's a lot of new macros

[Valena]

Wow at this update, omg.


Best part is part One, since that does mean we will probably get another week of update anouncement.

My bet is on Rdm update Monday, Salvage update Thursday.


As for Whm, From the wording, I think Esuna will be self-target spell. So party, and position dependant only. Not that I complaign, this is already incredible. But I bet Divine Veil, and Yagrush for that matter, will still have a lot of appeal for big numbers event like Dynamis and Limbus, and outside party aoe -na.

[Shinta]

- Sacrifice (Lv65)
Transfers one enfeebling effect from target to yourself.
Casting Sacrifice while Afflatus Solace is activated grants a bonus to the number and variety of enfeebling effects transferred.

Interesting, so it does absorb more than one debuff in Solace, that's the main advantage.

[QotsaM]

May I?

[Nevex]

You know it's going to be funny if Sacrifice can absorb Petrify and nobody else can Stona...

[Shinta]

You know it's going to be funny if Sacrifice can absorb Petrify and nobody else can Stona...

hahaha, yeah, I'm still trying to figure out when I would actually use this spell.

- Esuna (Lv61)
Removes one enfeebling effect from yourself and party members within area of effect.
Casting Esuna while Afflatus Misery is activated grants a bonus to the number and variety of enfeebling effects removed.

Yeah, I also think it will be centered on the caster like Protectra. But wow, you just have to be in the stance to use it for full effect, so you can switch to Misery, and it removes more than one effect, and more types, holy shit. That's as fast as using Divine Veil, but on a 1 minute timer unless the spell has a longer recast, and you lose your solace stored HP bonus.

I'm betting that Cura is extremely cheap to cast, and that's the bonus.

The most exciting thing about these new abilities, is that they seem like they'll take a bit of skill to use well.

[Gunslinger]

Just saw this and combed through the thread waiting for Izzy to post. Now that he has, he can safely say:

He now gets stronger with damage! Run, run for your lives!

[Spungy]

This isn't a WHM update, it's a NIN update. Now when I take a hit and get a Cure 3 from a WHM I will have temporary stoneskin. This makes Ichi recast Easy-mode except on the hardest hitting stuff.

[Knightfell]

May I?

Wow, I'm speechless, funny video. Might want to give peeps a heads up as that is a tad NSFW if you have anal coworkers.

[Destinye]

Still not seeing how this makes the game easier..especially without people actually being able to see the potency of the effect. It could be like "Metallic Body" for all you know..aka basically worthless on a base level.

[makojr]

wow, this should be interesting.