Job Adjustments and Additions Part II (03/30/2009)

[geno3302]

Merit BPs better match or be better then BLM AM II....I demand 1.5k dmg and 2.5-3k with MB. This is NOT a job adjustment for SMN at all. This is "oh I'm sorry this is how SMN should have been 6 years ago, we'll fix it now."

[BRP]

Problem is that when SE did RDM, then did it well right off the bat.

Nope. It just seems that way because RDM fixed by the time RotZ rolled out. It doesn't always start with us.

I don't think it matters if RDM NEEDS a fix or not or if they NEEDED a fix less than WHM. You jumped to a distant conclusion to think RDM was getting that fix. SE seemed pretty clear in that they were boosting the combat ability of RDM(and WHM). Was it that the WHM news surprised people into building high expectations in the span of 3 days? Or were people delusional to begin with?

It's all coming off as a tantrum that is either full of an odd jealousy that is invisible to sane people or yet another occurrence of a chronic case of nagging. I have scientifically concluded all RDM are women.

To get back on the topic: I expect that the recast penalty vs duration bonus will have a net gain in solo situations, but it could really good either way.

[Raineer]

Enspell IIs give the ability to do -element, which BLM, NIN, and BRD could already do.

I'd be happy with the -element if we didn't have to melee to do it. Just make it castable on the mob.

[Destinye]

Just curious to where they said one would come in July (drifting in and out during my away time)

They said avatars wouldn't come in the dec/jan or march/april update, so it's just him assuming it will be in the next update after this one.

[Kimiko]

Black Mage has things going for it but it is undeniable that the job is all but dead in the party scene. This is a party game right? The least BLM could get is a passing glance when someone is building an EXP party. BLM doesnt need more firepower, but they need more party friendly mechanics that help support the party. Why? Because being a one-trick pony in todays FFXI just does not cut it. (see: Ranger. Another one-trick pony job)

Yeah, least Rangers can be in merit parties. >.<

[Yugl]

Looks like that retard SenseiFF11 made the update notes for RDM LOL!

[Shinta]

Enspell II line sure is kind of weird. So, if something is weak to water, you have to melee with Enthunder on to set up for Water III? The damage boost better be large.

And on Composure, I'm really not sure what to think. Might see more RDMs using Celerity for their Haste cycles, it does cut recast by 50%. If you have to Haste two or three people, could fix it.

[Seraph]

Dammit, it would have been so nice if Composure was more magic based, and not melee based. It's going to be extremely situational, or campaign/solo onry. If it actually doubled the duration of debuffs too, it _MIGHT_ be awesome. Would solve my tier2 merit problem, as I would instantly go 5/5 Bio3.

As for tier 2 Enspells, I need to see the level of damage they do. If they significantly improve in damage as you melee, they might possibly be worth it for two reasons. You could pop them off for a quick mob debuff, or actually use them for 'long term' damage. However, if the DoT ends up matching or being lower than tier1 Enspells, I'm going to be really pissed. I don't want to waste gil for sidegrade spells...

[Whaleporn]

I always wondered why they didn't implement war mage in teirs on blm. As you level up you gradually build up a trait that gives you mp in proportion to the exp a kill gives you. It would have no effect on challenging endgame events *cough* but would make exping blms more viable for quick kills.

Heck I'll save square a patch and remind them not to let exp scrolls trigger it.

[Yugl]

I always wondered why they didn't implement war mage in teirs on blm. As you level up you gradually build up a trait that gives you mp in proportion to the exp a kill gives you. It would have no effect on challenging endgame events *cough* but would make exping blms more viable for quick kills.

Heck I'll save square a patch and remind them not to let exp scrolls trigger it.

Kind of like DRG wyverns right?

[Starr]

DIS IZ GUNNA MAKE RDM MELEE WORTH IT


fuuuuu

[MrBubbles]

Why wouldn't it be MAcc so I can stack INT and MND for my debuffs?

But SE got it sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo fucking right, RDM is now going to be the uber front line DD in meripo parties cause now I have an accuracy boost? And that's all RDM DD was missing, right?

[Gwynplaine]

I think it's important to remember these coming mage changes are intended to shift their focus further toward meleeing. That premise in and of itself is bad enough to start with, it's only natural the results are niche or crummy.

Ah, I can see it now. BLM update: JA that increases accuracy and lowers magic evasion, and a JA that doubles nuke damage when the player's TP is 300.

[Kenji]

Just curious to where they said one would come in July (drifting in and out during my away time)

They actually said that 2 new avatars were coming, and that one was ready, but the other was kinda big and needed more testing. They also said it wouldn't be in this update, but in the update after that. By my calculations, the next update will be in july.

[Ker]

Oh well Atleast i'll get to enjoy nation quests, mini expansion and hopefully a buff up in salvage drop rate.

[Seraphus]

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT?!

I swear to god, I better be able to hit god himself BLINDFOLDED with Composure up if I'm getting my recasts nerfed in return.

[Yugl]

THIS IS WHAT YOU CALL





















http://media.animegalleries.net/albu...shishio003.jpg
COMPOSURE!

This post is epic.

[Xno Kappa]

SMN's will get their new avatars, play around with it, go back to using Garuda, bitch for new avatars two weeks later. Wash, rinse, repeat.

[EndgameDrama]

"Hey look, mechanics that make white mage do it's job in a more interesting and engaging way and let them switch up tactics sometimes while still playing effectively!"

"Oh... RED mages? Here's a spell we already coded and a JA which directly counteracts your job traits and hey look, you can now put your face into AOE more often. JOB ADJUSTED, MYTH BUSTED"

"... what the fuck is a summoner?"

i rofled at this, quoting so others can appreciate it just as much.

[lost071]

Yeah i have to say.... were people expecting job changing updates for RDM like WHM got? WHM got such a boost because of how little uniqueness the job has now. Other jobs were better healers in pretty much any situation. WHMs were used for R3, spike cures, and MDB.