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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerberoz View Post
    where's the cheering guys/apathetic guys meme? seems appropriate
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    There ya go, a templet.

  2. #62
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    At first I thought they meant accuracy of spells which could be nice for popping off a Composure Slow2/Para2 on a full MND build for that little bit more chance of landing it. But after reading all the responses and rereading the post seeing they didn't actually say magic accuracy

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    I doubt Composure will be uncancelable.

    If anything RDMs just had their self-refreshes made more MP efficient. Put your own refresh at the end of a cycle, use composure to cast it. It's not much but depending on the duration buff it's certainly not 'nothing'. With any luck the duration buff will be double and self refreshes just went from 40 in -> 150 out to 40 in -> 300 out.

  4. #64
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    This update note is worthless...... At least some of the update is decent...

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    Well they clearly want rdm to have a bit of a melee edge to it like it had in previous final fantasies, so I wouldn't hope for any magic accuracy boosting abilities. I can't bring myself to complain about an update though until I see the actual effects and applications. Disappointment is a waste of emotion

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    the main thing, Im pretty sure we all saw new enspells coming a long long time ago. The main issue I have is the lack of multihit support on the enspells and the nerfing of /nin with composure. tier 1 enspells prolly gonna be superior. just a guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tempyst View Post
    requoting this for posterity for when rdms become the new best melee
    I would lol

  8. #68
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    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

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    Analogies are usually fail! But I think this one sums it up:
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    They don't understand their game and they don't understand what the players want.
    Second half...my ass.

  11. #71
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    RDM getting shafted again, and nothing about BLM either.

    Fuck you SE. -_- Giving me one more thing that is going to make me quit.

  12. #72
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    Well Unless the Enspell's do a SIGNIFICANT amount of damage more than original tier of spells then the RDM updates really arent worth crap. As for the SMN update well its nice to see them fix the BP range issue and mebbe make the 75 BP's actually WORTH using over their 70 counterparts but atm compared to the WHM update this blows SE u really couldve done better than that. and WHERES MAH BLM FIXES!? D:

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    Slightly disappointed to say the least.

    However, Enspell 2s could potentially be awesome for soloing. Keep in mind, for harder stuff you'll want to use a Ceremonial Dagger so the nerf to multi-hit weapons doesn't apply.

    I can still see Enspell 2s being better than Enspells when single handing a Joyeuse as long as their damage is decent. This "nerf" could just be to stop Kraken Club from becoming broken. Meh, at least we got something to play around with.

    It'll be interesting to see how Composure affects RDM meleeing. More reasons to upgrade Excalibur would be good.

    I'm still hoping they buff BLM seeing as the WHM buff is amazing.

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    Enhancing Sword!!!!!

    Maybe not ...

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    i really wanted there to be something that would actually mak me put in the effort to find my discs so i can actually install the game back onto the new laptop ive had a month...

    but nope. seriously, what?

  17. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kairos View Post
    Well they clearly want rdm to have a bit of a melee edge to it like it had in previous final fantasies, so I wouldn't hope for any magic accuracy boosting abilities. I can't bring myself to complain about an update though until I see the actual effects and applications. Disappointment is a waste of emotion
    Generally I try to feel this way, but RDM is special to me. RDM was my first job, the only job that I really wanted to play when I started all the way back in October 2003. Then I got to see exactly how terrible and useless the job was- you are wanted for exactly one spell that doesn't improve in any way, shape, or form from when you get it at level 41. Generalists are supposed to be weaker than other jobs at the expense of doing more, with the advent of Blue Mage and Scholar we saw that RDM is even terrible at being a generalist. There is only one thing that RDM does better than any other job, and considering the number of monsters that are either fantastically resistant or completely immune to enfeebling magic, we aren't even needed for that anyway. (Oh, and bard still slows better than us 16 levels and 220,000 limit points later anyway.)

    So, I think that a slight feeling of disappointment is in order. It's like if they gave Ninjas a job ability that allowed them to recast Ninjitsu at half the rate normally, but it halves their emnity and attack disappointing. (I think I just gave them their new job ability idea!) The awesome update team who made the first few update notes were put on a bus and we got our regular old team that thinks that AV and PW are completely reasonable are back in the saddle again.

    And yes, we know that White Mage, Paladin, and Samurai are Square's favorite jobs that keep getting better and better, but how about some damn love for everyone else?

  18. #78
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    Pretty epic fail imo, RDM can do roundly 10~20 with Enspell 1 so II should do 40+ to be "useful". Either way, what should be interesting is the Ability. How hard does it nerf ur recasts and how good the accuracy bonus is?

    Lets wait for the maint and then cry @ BG

  19. #79
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    Ell O Ell SE! Tyvm for making me wait in anticipation of what should have been a 1337 set of updates to follow the overhaul WHM got, and be SEVERELY disappointed.

    Honestly. This > Skins > 13yr old boy not father ¬_¬

    Gimme my 9.99 back for that exp pack you bastards, should wear a mask and a striped vest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus View Post
    Generally I try to feel this way, but RDM is special to me. RDM was my first job, the only job that I really wanted to play when I started all the way back in October 2003. Then I got to see exactly how terrible and useless the job was- you are wanted for exactly one spell that doesn't improve in any way, shape, or form from when you get it at level 41. Generalists are supposed to be weaker than other jobs at the expense of doing more, with the advent of Blue Mage and Scholar we saw that RDM is even terrible at being a generalist. There is only one thing that RDM does better than any other job, and considering the number of monsters that are either fantastically resistant or completely immune to enfeebling magic, we aren't even needed for that anyway. (Oh, and bard still slows better than us 16 levels and 220,000 limit points later anyway.)

    So, I think that a slight feeling of disappointment is in order. It's like if they gave Ninjas a job ability that allowed them to recast Ninjitsu at half the rate normally, but it halves their emnity and attack disappointing. (I think I just gave them their new job ability idea!) The awesome update team who made the first few update notes were put on a bus and we got our regular old team that thinks that AV and PW are completely reasonable are back in the saddle again.

    And yes, we know that White Mage, Paladin, and Samurai are Square's favorite jobs that keep getting better and better, but how about some damn love for everyone else?
    QFTmuthafuckinTruth

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