New RMT attacks

[Nevex]

Happened on Sunday.

[rex_garuda]

/conspiracy on

SE misplaced random accounts to scare people into buying the new security tokens

/conspiracy off

[D44kpunk]

Honestly, Im going with the theory that somebody shared info, somebody got "hacked" then also jumped a few other accounts to gank them, blame some random POL message that is HIGHLY IMPROBABLE. After that, some QQing and random wtf, somebody gets a bunch of shit, claims their account was stolen, decides to quit because it was bullshit, winds up on another server with a new name and a shit ton of gil. Cue people automagically blaming taj for stealing shit or chineese RMT for something that really really intelligent hackers havent figured out yet, who happen to ONLY be going for these 3 people who happen to all be connected.

Yeah... totally believe this.

pretty sure the only reason I mentioned taj was because he is the only one i've ever heard of that's been able to change names on accounts

[madpersian]

FFXI player who habitually shared account info hacked! Details at 11!

In all seriousness, what are the odds that this is some advanced super hacking technique rather than an isolated incident that occurred amongst a group of friends that are relatively comfortable sharing account info?

What if your friend gave out some info to a friend of his he trusted and they abused the trust? Would he fess up? Would he be too embarrassed to tell? There are so many more viable possibilities than a new super hack.

I mean with the name changing thing, that didn't even have to have happened right when the password was changed. Could have been done way before and you had no reason to check your account name so you didn't notice till it mattered.

Either way, just don't fucking share account info with anyone other than your significant other, and only if you TOTALLY trust them and don't expect them to divorce your bitch ass or break up with you. How hard is this basic lesson to learn?

[Mizango]

PS2 limitations, thank goodness. My PC flaked during a power outage about 2 weeks ago, whew!

[bombard]

so what's the deal on this? something to be worried about?

[Issac]

so what's the deal on this? something to be worried about?

Probably not. Don't share account info. Don't download shady shit. Don't browse unprotected.

[Pamelita]

Hello, I'm in Spekkio's, Tsuki's, Dithera's and Edimir's linkshell. The other person who got hacked is Jube who can't post here because of the 15 post rule.

Anyway, what happened to him is really scary... >.< Someone, other than himself locked the account. He logged in to find that it was locked, and when he called SE they couldn't confirm he was the owner because the credit card number had already been changed.

To quote his post on our forums:

Sometime between 12am est and 7pm est today 3/30/09, my main account Jube was frozen on Kujata. When i placed a GM call with iemo they had said my account was frozen by a players request. I ended up having to call SE's wonderful customer service center about my account and gave all my info. They came back saying the Credit Card info was incorrect.

But yeah no one has my password or account info. Never gave those out to anybody, never emailed or pmed passwords or info. Firefox addblock all computers virus scaners spam blockers and scaners. all computers up to date on system upgrades of service packs. never checked my PoL messages so dont know if i have the blank one. Never been to a rmt site, since i never had a need, never used cheat programs, never botted. About the most game changeing aspect i do in game is plastic surgeon and reg edits to make game pretty. No yarn ball no blink me not, all plugins disabled in windower.

This makes me wonder if the info on SE's side has been compromised...

*Edit: I forgot to note that another person in our linkshell was logged into by someone other than him. The funny thing is that it happened to only 2 of the 3 accounts he owns; One of them being his own, which was never logged-into, and the two others which once belonged to people who no longer play, which were logged-into by someone (he had them locked before they could be looted). It might have been that by some strange coincidence these two people who quit decided to log in on the same day, but that's unlikely considering it happened to others. This person also doesn't share his info.

[Mizango]

Koyuki

[bombard]

well, I guess it's one of the following:

1 person's computer is infected and has logged in on all these characters within the infected time frame, thus resulting them all being from the same LS.

Their linkshell forums are infected with something that hasn't been detected.

One of them is profiting off their friends by RMTing all they can, and has the knowledge and programming skills to 'force' name changes.


Really nothing else it could be. I'm guessing it's the first or second thing, imo.

[Snprphnx]

i know i know

leave your character gimp as hell, using all AF at merit camps, and under 500k in sellable items, so you aren't a target. To think, all those ppl in the wtf gimp thread are ahead of the curve.

also, seems those "PS2 Limitations" have the latent effect of preventing acct hacking

edit: also had a guy in my shell with 2-3 accts get hacked last week, got 2 back, but SE said 3rd was gone. working on the item restore now. He hadn't been on them in a while, he gave info to someone else for a lil bit. bet he won't anymore

[Mafai]

There was actually a guy on my old LS vent that would pop in and out saying he could "clean" account information up using a program he had. Duno how much BS it was, but he was known for buying and flipping accounts / possibly scamming accounts on the RMT sites and changing the info so they could not be recovered.

After hearing him talk about it and seeing this post, it would not surprise me if this program got out.

[sleekmotorwurkz]

FFXI player who habitually shared account info hacked! Details at 11!

In all seriousness, what are the odds that this is some advanced super hacking technique rather than an isolated incident that occurred amongst a group of friends that are relatively comfortable sharing account info?

What if your friend gave out some info to a friend of his he trusted and they abused the trust? Would he fess up? Would he be too embarrassed to tell? There are so many more viable possibilities than a new super hack.

I mean with the name changing thing, that didn't even have to have happened right when the password was changed. Could have been done way before and you had no reason to check your account name so you didn't notice till it mattered.

Either way, just don't fucking share account info with anyone other than your significant other, and only if you TOTALLY trust them and don't expect them to divorce your bitch ass or break up with you. How hard is this basic lesson to learn?

People really need to read the post before they come in here with their autoreply of "dont share your account info lulz" People sharing their account info has NOTHING to do with the names on the server being changes. You cannot change the name on the account. But somehow if you share your account info, it lets the name on the account be changed... right? No.

[Tubbers]

FFXI player who habitually shared account info hacked! Details at 11!

In all seriousness, what are the odds that this is some advanced super hacking technique rather than an isolated incident that occurred amongst a group of friends that are relatively comfortable sharing account info?

What if your friend gave out some info to a friend of his he trusted and they abused the trust? Would he fess up? Would he be too embarrassed to tell? There are so many more viable possibilities than a new super hack.

I mean with the name changing thing, that didn't even have to have happened right when the password was changed. Could have been done way before and you had no reason to check your account name so you didn't notice till it mattered.

Either way, just don't fucking share account info with anyone other than your significant other, and only if you TOTALLY trust them and don't expect them to divorce your bitch ass or break up with you. How hard is this basic lesson to learn?

B1: Repeating again that nobody had access to both Caitlyn and Servont.
B2: Yeah, they would
B3: You're right, it didn't necessarily happen then

[Snprphnx]

SE can do an easy fix on this, as far as the POL account info being changed. Have all account info protected by a different password. Log into POL with one to get general character access, but all changes to Name, Credit Card, additional services (server transfer, expansion registration) only be accessible through a second password, that can't match the general log in password.

Sure, they can get your toon and clean it out, but they can't do anything beyond that.

[Invictusx]

/conspiracy on

SE misplaced random accounts to scare people into buying the new security tokens

/conspiracy off

This ^

[Mafai]

SE can do an easy fix on this, as far as the POL account info being changed. Have all account info protected by a different password. Log into POL with one to get general character access, but all changes to Name, Credit Card, additional services (server transfer, expansion registration) only be accessible through a second password, that can't match the general log in password.

Sure, they can get your toon and clean it out, but they can't do anything beyond that.

Or just

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/72456...31-2009-a.html

then everyones account and information is protected.

[Snprphnx]

Or just

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/72456...31-2009-a.html

then everyones account and information is protected.

would have been cheaper on SEs part to use do a 2nd password, but meh. I too will get one of these, even though I am on PS3.

[madpersian]

People really need to read the post before they come in here with their autoreply of "dont share your account info lulz" People sharing their account info has NOTHING to do with the names on the server being changes. You cannot change the name on the account. But somehow if you share your account info, it lets the name on the account be changed... right? No.

If you notarize a change of name form you can. Just find a shady notary... or one you know... not that hard. Mind you, this is assuming you have most other info for the account.

[Charismatic]

Honestly, Im going with the theory that somebody shared info, somebody got "hacked" then also jumped a few other accounts to gank them, blame some random POL message that is HIGHLY IMPROBABLE. After that, some QQing and random wtf, somebody gets a bunch of shit, claims their account was stolen, decides to quit because it was bullshit, winds up on another server with a new name and a shit ton of gil. Cue people automagically blaming taj for stealing shit or chineese RMT for something that really really intelligent hackers havent figured out yet, who happen to ONLY be going for these 3 people who happen to all be connected.

Yeah... totally believe this.

IF ONLY THEY HAD THE SECURITY TOKEN, eh? eh?