Square Enix Security Token Release Date Details (03/31/2009)

[Neosutra]

That's fine. How is it stealing?

If someone is sold a product that has the tag of "this product recieved continuous updates to game mechanics to improve the game play and solve problems that arise and is covered via your montly subscription fee", then later being told "actually we plan on charging you for several of these benefits", then it is stealing.

SE is shifting from a system of providing us a constantly evolving game experiance that we get for our subscription fees, to a stagnant game play experiance, where as any changes/upgrades to what we currently have will cost us.

This isnt "us paying for better stuff", this is "us getting less for the money we already pay".

@ The Q: You are a fucking moron. You havent refutted anything anyone has said here, and hopped on the coat tails of other people with equally as weak arguments and claimed victory in an argument you very clearly dont have the education to understand. Move on to other threads that dont require you to think as much or go back to your coloring.

[Nattack]

holy shit this is still goin, and all the people are still talking about the exact same thing. in the exact same loop. you all ought to be ashamed.

[Tempyst]

I'm not going to read 25 pages so excuse me if this was said:

I know it says items in your Mog Satchel can be accessed anywhere. But I wonder if that means they can be equipped with Macros or if you'd have to move them to your inventory to be able to equip them.

This is the big up in the air for me too, though I was planning on getting the token anyway

[Stubwub]

I'm not going to read 25 pages so excuse me if this was said:

I know it says items in your Mog Satchel can be accessed anywhere. But I wonder if that means they can be equipped with Macros or if you'd have to move them to your inventory to be able to equip them.

Probably move them to your inventory, like Pup attachments or rune bags for MMM.

That way it stays within the memory limits. 80 inventory spaces + 80 Satchel = 160. 80 Inventory + 80 view mog safe/storage/locker = 160 and so on.

[Tempyst]

@ The Q: You are a fucking moron. You havent refutted anything anyone has said here, and hopped on the coat tails of other people with equally as weak arguments and claimed victory in an argument you very clearly dont have the education to understand. Move on and go back to your coloring.

Ad Hominem

[Colenzo]

I think SE if offering a service to you just by allowing you to have the option for more space to put your shit IMO.

[ringthree]

Really, they dont want to make profit and just care about the player. You are more dellusional than ever..

And they want to fuck your mother too, right?

For the last time. SE wants everyone to do this so they can stop wasting money on dealing with stolen accounts. The best way to get people to do that is with the irresistible inducement.

You don't want to use it? Fine, don't.

You have gone off the deep end as usual, and the world you live in must be a scary place when everyone is out to get you.

[madpersian]

I'm not going to read 25 pages so excuse me if this was said:

I know it says items in your Mog Satchel can be accessed anywhere. But I wonder if that means they can be equipped with Macros or if you'd have to move them to your inventory to be able to equip them.

This would be super annoying so I sure hope not...

[Hank]

Probably move them to your inventory, like Pup attachments or rune bags for MMM.

That way it stays within the memory limits. 80 inventory spaces + 80 Satchel = 160. 80 Inventory + 80 view mog safe/storage/locker = 160 and so on.

I kind of think that's what it will be too. Which is still nice for leveling more jobs to 75, but sucks because I can't be insanely OCD on my mage jobs now \;_;/

[Tempyst]

And they want to fuck your mother too, right?

For the last time. SE wants everyone to do this so they can stop wasting money on dealing with stolen accounts. The best way to get people to do that is with the irresistible inducement.

You don't want to use it? Fine, don't.

You have gone off the deep end as usual, and the world you live in must be a scary place when everyone is out to get you.

Being the only atheist in the world is a rough life

[The Q]

If someone is sold a product that has the tag of "this product recieved continuous updates to game mechanics to improve the game play and solve problems that arise and is covered via your montly subscription fee", then later being told "actually we plan on charging you for several of these benefits", then it is stealing.

SE is shifting from a system of providing us a constantly evolving game experiance that we get for our subscription fees, to a stagnant game play experiance, where as any changes/upgrades to what we currently have will cost us.

This isnt "us paying for better stuff", this is "us getting less for the money we already pay".

@ The Q: You are a fucking moron. You havent refutted anything anyone has said here, and hopped on the coat tails of other people with equally as weak arguments and claimed victory in an argument you very clearly dont have the education to understand. Move on to other threads that dont require you to think as much or go back to your coloring.

If I am so stupid then why can't you answer my question? It's a simple yes or no answer. It isn't that hard.

I will admit I don't have the education to understand your argument. That would be a backwards bizarro education that flies in the face of everything higher learning has developed.

[Tagus]

Move on to other threads that dont require you to think as much or go back to your coloring.

I don't know if I agree with you or not, but that was fucking brilliant. Please don't ever stop.

[Neosutra]

I think SE if offering a service to you just by allowing you to have the option for more space to put your shit IMO.

Are you writing a check to them for the last 40 spots you recieved?

[Uubu]

i guess my question would be can i get the token, get the satchel and not use the token..

[Tempyst]

I don't know if I agree with you or not, but that was fucking brilliant. Please don't ever stop.

Reeks of knocked off Bill Hicks or Lewis Black snark, I give it a 2 out of 10

[Devolver]

If someone is sold a product that has the tag of "this product recieved continuous updates to game mechanics to improve the game play and solve problems at arise and is covered via your montly subscription fee", then later being told "actually we plan on charging you for several of these benefits", then it is stealing.

I don't think we are guaranteed these continuous updates you speak of. Server upkeep and employee salaries is what our monthly fees cover (while still trying to turn a profit). Just because you expect to get updates, doesn't mean we're entitled to them.

[Day]

I can't believe a business is trying to sell something. Astonishing.

[Neosutra]

Reeks of knocked off Bill Hicks or Lewis Black snark, I give it a 2 out of 10

Both awesome..

And to Ubuu: Yout cant use the snatchel w/o the Token activation.

[Colenzo]

i guess my question would be can i get the token, get the satchel and not use the token..

this is what i was thinkin lol

[Yabby]

Neo what is your address i will send you 10 fucking dollars holy shit man.