Completed Relic/Mythic weapons list

[Therin]

Using RR at all with a strong STR set is a bit outdated. It's a great weaponskill but you should stick to KJ or MT in most situations.

RR would be better if you're getting rogue's roll or something, but who rolls that?

[Jakson]

Wouldn't the -2 Enmity on White Tathlum be kinda counter productive with MT? He sounds like he wants his war to tank, making stp for 6-hit discussion irrelevant, really...

[Valisk]

Wouldn't the -2 Enmity on White Tathlum be kinda counter productive with MT? He sounds like he wants his war to tank, making stp for 6-hit discussion irrelevant, really...

You seriously think -2 enmity matter on war? A relic war at that. I'm quite sure 6-hit > -2 enm

[BerenTebogo]

I may honestly in most cases do DA grip + Bomblet and Aurum Body for the 6hit. However Rose + White has crossed my mind.

And unless I'm parsing against someone I think would beat me I would use MT, otherwise all out with RR / KJ. MT is just a better / more useful WS.

Ultimately the answer is that I don't have it yet so I can't make an informed decision.

[Neoex]

I may honestly in most cases do DA grip + Bomblet and Aurum Body for the 6hit. However Rose + White has crossed my mind.

And unless I'm parsing against someone I think would beat me I would use MT, otherwise all out with RR / KJ. MT is just a better / more useful WS.

Ultimately the answer is that I don't have it yet so I can't make an informed decision.

If im racing someone on a parse, I use KJ when aggresor is up and RR when its down.

The only person who can consistently beat me is a fully decked Amano SAM, I use askar body to get a 6-hit

[BerenTebogo]

If im racing someone on a parse, I use KJ when aggresor is up and RR when its down.

The only person who can consistently beat me is a fully decked Amano SAM, I use askar body to get a 6-hit

Do you have access to Aurum / have considered it?

[isladar]

Ultimately the answer is that I don't have it yet so I can't make an informed decision.

When has this stopped anyone on BG ever.

[BerenTebogo]

One man stand valiantly in the face of adversity. Jean-Claude Van Sath in: Rational Thinking.

Coming this Fall.

[Neoex]

Do you have access to Aurum / have considered it?

I have means to get the body, have not really considered it to be honest. When im racing someone on a parse, which is everytime im on WAR, any double attack that gets me hate or gets me closer to 100%tp, so i can get hate, so i can get Relatiation is what makes the difference.

Along the same lines of what a SAM wants hate or to be in front of the mob for Overwhelm. I want hate for Relatiation. The best part about Retaliation is not the damage but the TP.

If a mob is on me, and I can turn the mob off the SAM, Ill win, if the SAM is smart and just stands with me, he'll win.

My WAR is spellcast driven, and I do different things based on Aggresor up/down, I guess if you wanted to get nitpicky, you could use askar body with agressor up and aurum body while its down to try and snag that extra accuracy. or could go Aurum fulltime, looks like a toss up to me.

[BerenTebogo]

Have links to your gear sets? Curious now.

[Neoex]

Have links to your gear sets? Curious now.

MT
- FFXIAH.com

no Haichy pants or ares would swap those in if i had, not sure which I would use if i had both

TP
- FFXIAH.com
pretty much done here

[Starr]

Using RR at all with a strong STR set is a bit outdated. It's a great weaponskill but you should stick to KJ or MT in most situations.

RR would be better if you're getting rogue's roll or something, but who rolls that?

wat, I have played WAR for long with good gear, KJ does not beat RR.

[BerenTebogo]

wat, I have played WAR for long with good gear, KJ does not beat RR.

With aggressor and berserk up KJ wins with it down RR wins is how the math is leaning currently.

[Starr]

With aggressor and berserk up KJ wins with it down RR wins is how the math is leaning currently.

Show me this math

[Therin]

I've always seen KJ parse consistently higher (average of about 50-80 higher) when I would deliberately use both in a merit party (and no, I'm not inflating these parses by only using KJ when Berserk is up and whatnot, I'm talking 50+ WSes with each).

It's pretty much known that KJ is consistently higher. Of course you see outliers if you spam RR because of it's critical AND double attack ability, yes. This makes it feel like RR is better because you get those wacky 1500-2000 ones popping out occasionally, but the AVERAGE over the whole party will be fairly even and slightly favoring KJ.

[Starr]

I really can't see it unless we're talking vast gear changes in RR and KJ, Alkys and Hachiryu Haidate would definately be required to help KJ

[Therin]

If you use Alkys for anything other than /THF one-hit you're retarded. <_<

Here's my WS set:

http://www.ffxiah.com/item_sets.php?id=99525

I don't have E.Body yet, so I can see that balancing it out in favor of RR for a bit. This set is for King's Justice. If I use RR, I'll obvious swap Gorgets and use Warwolf Belt over Warrior's Stone. If I'm having accuracy issues with this set (which is normally the case if I'm not fighting Greater Colibri), I use Cuchulain's Mantle and Toreador's Ring over Cerb+1/Flame.

[Kouu]

If you use Alkys for anything other than /THF one-hit you're retarded. <_<

What's wrong with Alkyoneus's Bracelets on 1-hit WS when you're not /THF? Say accuracy and I'm going to laugh.

[Neoex]

If you use Alkys for anything other than /THF one-hit you're retarded. <_<

Here's my WS set:

- FFXIAH.com

I don't have E.Body yet, so I can see that balancing it out in favor of RR for a bit. This set is for King's Justice. If I use RR, I'll obvious swap Gorgets and use Warwolf Belt over Warrior's Stone. If I'm having accuracy issues with this set (which is normally the case if I'm not fighting Greater Colibri), I use Cuchulain's Mantle and Toreador's Ring over Cerb+1/Flame.

A bit off subject but I find my Accuracy with Kings Justice, lacking compared to RR just based of incosistent TP return. I dont use it unless Aggressor is up.

[Therin]

What's wrong with Alkyoneus's Bracelets on 1-hit WS when you're not /THF? Say accuracy and I'm going to laugh.

Why would you use a 1-hit if you're not /THF as a WAR?

(protip: we're discussing WAR, so you can't bring SAM into the mix)

As for KJ accuracy, it makes no sense why it would be any different than RR accuracy unless you're throwing more DEX into the mix with your RR set (which may be the case, for more critical).