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    Quote Originally Posted by Zubuis View Post
    Theres only like 2 or 3 on the entire server >.>

    You could say that pretty much every relic has a couple of poorly equipped people on every server even if they are. I mean have you ever been in party with Mckun or Maxwell or whoever has one on seraph to know they suck using it? I doubt it. I'm pretty sure they have better gear and play it better than your dragoon.
    Hmm this is what I see Maxwel wear most of the time: http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...710_061156.png
    Albeit, in town, he's wearing not-dusk-gloves, and CC, understandable. But, he is also wearing Wyrm Belt, haste wru? And I'm assuming that's for TP, Why use Iota? I know askar korazin can be a bitch to get, but he's not even attempting to get a 5/6-hit build (I know he's /whm). Along with lacking the haste on turban, and Blitz. He's had relic for a while, so where the hell is a Love torque/Forager's mantle? They aren't even hard to get. As Mythe said, the guy is like afk 24/7.

    As far as Mckun is concerned, I thought he quit the job/game, so clearly Grift would have better gear then him?
    I'm not insulting the player's ability, I'm merely talking about their gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentleroy View Post
    But, he is also wearing Wyrm Belt, haste wru?
    I usually ran around/stood around in 4/5 wyrm (left w.legs on) or 4/5 crimson with b.mask just because I liked being a bright blue/red galka. All rare/ex accessories as well, including wyrm belt on drg instead of s.belt. I have town gear macros for all my jobs that do shit like that.

    So it's possible some of that stuff is there just for kicks. Though with that kind of mix he has...idk. Hard to tell if he'd actually be using all that shit. Go merit with him and report back!

    In the end I'm still jealous. I always wanted a gungnir, but I always wanted a bravura and apoc as well and couldn't decide. So I just gave up all together, lol.

    Grats Tedman and Atani!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mythe_Seraph View Post

    Pshhh. But while we're on the subject, let's not forget my polearm only WAR1~30. I look back at this now fondly, I totally didn't suck, I was just way ahead of my time.
    I used a Polearm from like 25 to 32 on WAR cus I got my DRG to 50 and needed to do my sub some more, little did I know then that Mandragora were weak to piercing anyway!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mythe_Seraph View Post
    I have actually played with Mckun on several occassions, and he is a great player. His DRG however, is complete crap. Maxwel, I have never seen actually playing, he is perpetually AFK.



    Pshhh. But while we're on the subject, let's not forget my polearm only WAR1~30. I look back at this now fondly, I totally didn't suck, I was just way ahead of my time.


    I've seen Maxwel out solo'ing a time or two, and it's one of those situations where he's using gear as SE intended. Which is to say...well, decide for yourself. Lots of wyvern buffing (AF1(+1)/AF2(+1)), etc. It's been a while since I've seen him do anything though, this is - at best - several months back. Possibly longer. Personally, I don't think it's the way to gear yourself for solo'ing on drg, but I digress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentleroy View Post
    Hmm this is what I see Maxwel wear most of the time: http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...710_061156.png
    Albeit, in town, he's wearing not-dusk-gloves, and CC, understandable. But, he is also wearing Wyrm Belt, haste wru? And I'm assuming that's for TP, Why use Iota? I know askar korazin can be a bitch to get, but he's not even attempting to get a 5/6-hit build (I know he's /whm). Along with lacking the haste on turban, and Blitz. He's had relic for a while, so where the hell is a Love torque/Forager's mantle? They aren't even hard to get. As Mythe said, the guy is like afk 24/7.

    As far as Mckun is concerned, I thought he quit the job/game, so clearly Grift would have better gear then him?
    I'm not insulting the player's ability, I'm merely talking about their gear.
    First of all I dont see whats wrong with a Iota Ring for 2h job. Its better than a nq accuracy ring. I mean you think hes a gimp because he doesnt have a toreadors ring?

    Hes got a weird set of gear but hes standing in town so yeah. I aint saying hes a great player or he doesnt have great gear because I have never been in a party with him or whatever.

    Personally I just find the whole thing strange how your sitting on BG criticizing peoples gear when your drg had nothing amazing. You pretty much had none of the stuff your criticizing people for not having. Not too long ago (before you got banned) you were 75BRD/17WHM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zubuis View Post
    Not too long ago (before you got banned) you were 75BRD/17WHM.
    I smell smoke.

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    Real Brds sub lvl 17 Blm, so they can Eseal Elegy and Warp home after Tia drops another beetle blood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zubuis View Post
    First of all I dont see whats wrong with a Iota Ring for 2h job. Its better than a nq accuracy ring. I mean you think hes a gimp because he doesnt have a toreadors ring?

    Hes got a weird set of gear but hes standing in town so yeah. I aint saying hes a great player or he doesnt have great gear because I have never been in a party with him or whatever.
    Just throwing the disclaimer out there that my initial interest on this particular topic was merely to mention "Mythe" and "rubbing his nipples" in the same breath. Because it's still one of the funnier moments I remember from my early-in-the-game memories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luis View Post
    Something is wrong if your BRD needs Eseal to Elegy Tia
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    Ughh do I have to go to Nashmau to pick up an Iota ring now lol..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zubuis View Post
    First of all I dont see whats wrong with a Iota Ring for 2h job. Its better than a nq accuracy ring. I mean you think hes a gimp because he doesnt have a toreadors ring?

    Hes got a weird set of gear but hes standing in town so yeah. I aint saying hes a great player or he doesnt have great gear because I have never been in a party with him or whatever.

    Personally I just find the whole thing strange how your sitting on BG criticizing peoples gear when your drg had nothing amazing. You pretty much had none of the stuff your criticizing people for not having. Not too long ago (before you got banned) you were 75BRD/17WHM.
    I may have mentioned it a sentence after I mentioned Iota, but I said "Blitz Ring". I'm not criticizing him for for not having Toreader's, but for not gearing correctly. As for me not having the gear? So what. If you wear Amemet with relic, I'm going to criticize you; if you have far too much accuracy while sacrificing haste, i'm going to criticize you, same deal. As for the gimped whm sub, I had recently gotten the job to 75 (I absolutely hate levelling whm), along with the hatred of playing brd at the time caused me to lax on my gimp subs. Anything else you would like to say, zub?

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    People with relics and without Toreador's or Divisor or Blitz or something are pretty gimp. If you spent 120mil+ of currency on a relic, you should have everything else with a better improvement/(gil or time) ratio for your job already. If you think I'm wrong, STFU UR RONG!!!

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    Definitely have to hate on the gimped primary sub before gimped gear...

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    Because a DRG needs the acc? Don't they have like a billion accuracy bonus traits? And then the 20acc on a weapon? Blitz would be better though assuming you are close to haste cap right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    People with relics and without Toreador's or Divisor or Blitz or something are pretty gimp. If you spent 120mil+ of currency on a relic, you should have everything else with a better improvement/(gil or time) ratio for your job already. If you think I'm wrong, STFU UR RONG!!!
    Idk why ppl keep saying that You pay 120M for relic...

    You can:
    a) get it sponsored by LS for points, and that cost You nothing
    b) get it by sponsoring a dynamis 1 a week ( 2 ppl Sponsor for example ) In that case You need to farm 2M per month for which you dont need to get 15m/month like ppl who pay 120M on bazzars. So after You got relic You would need to farm like 1 year almost to buy for example dusk+1.

    Some ppl have skills in job and spend all the time on events or helping friends and if they get relic, they usually get it by 2 methods above. For those ppl 20M for addicional gear can be very hard to get.

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    And those are exactly the types of people who shouldn't upgrade relics. They could sponsor Dynamis, sell the currency, and actually properly gear themselves.

    And any self-respecting linkshell that would fund someone's relic who obviously doesn't care what kind of shit they are wearing should all collectively jump off a bridge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricen View Post
    Because a DRG needs the acc? Don't they have like a billion accuracy bonus traits? And then the 20acc on a weapon? Blitz would be better though assuming you are close to haste cap right?
    +22 Natural and +20 from the relic for a total of +42. Add on top of that the acc bonus change from 2H weapons basically means you can give up acc in some slots for other pieces if you are at or near the cap.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aksannyi View Post
    And those are exactly the types of people who shouldn't upgrade relics. They could sponsor Dynamis, sell the currency, and actually properly gear themselves.

    And any self-respecting linkshell that would fund someone's relic who obviously doesn't care what kind of shit they are wearing should all collectively jump off a bridge.
    If the person isn't getting a loan for the last 3k of the 10k, they should be selling the currency they get back from upgrading relic to upgrade gear pieces if they haven't done so already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aksannyi View Post
    And those are exactly the types of people who shouldn't upgrade relics. They could sponsor Dynamis, sell the currency, and actually properly gear themselves.

    And any self-respecting linkshell that would fund someone's relic who obviously doesn't care what kind of shit they are wearing should all collectively jump off a bridge.
    I agree to a point.

    Quality gear isn't always the absolute most uber. A warrior with Bravura using NQ dusk and a haubergeon+1 over an adaman hauberk and dusk+1 isn't going to bother me. Should he be -working- at getting those things? Hell mother fucking yes. Am I going to condemn him for having Bravura before those things? God no. Especially not if he funded himself.

    Now, inversely, a warrior with Bravura using AF2 hands and an NQ haubergeon or Askar in an incorrect fashion or some such? Now that's a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aksannyi View Post
    And any self-respecting linkshell that would fund someone's relic who obviously doesn't care what kind of shit they are wearing should all collectively jump off a bridge.
    I agree whole heartidly. Our LS has denied a few people that wanted relic because they would never use the weapons to their full potential (we actually had someone toss all his gear in dismay because of this).

    If an LS is going to put all that effort into one single item, it better be going to someone who knows what to do with it, and this goes way beyond having the best gear for said job. The player better be top knotch, otherwise the relic is going to be useless.

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