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  1. #2841
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    time to meet some izzy and get your ass pwned

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    Melee WHM: You are better off curing.

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    shut up

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    Who's driving? Oh my God Bear is driving! How can that be??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julian View Post
    I want my prudence torque to give me +7 int
    I guess that's what I get for playing on my own private server (pXI) with my own adjusted equipment. I seriously need to fix my .DATs, but yeah its +5 INT.

    Quote Originally Posted by Virtuous Saint View Post
    If you're meleeing on WHM you have a problem already.
    Not if you are competent to know how to melee and cure at the same time. 2nd and 3rd floor Appolyon SE comes to mind, especially when you lowman it.

  5. #2845
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    Bhaflau Remnants sup!

  6. #2846
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    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

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    And everybody laughed at me for meleeing in Bhaf. Now I don't feel bad!

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    >.> Ok you just contradicted yourself Izzy, as you stated in another thread the whole point of the WHM Melee with your Mjollnir + K Club in merit pt was to spam mystic boon... so why would you spam Mystic Boon if you're not Curing?

    Multi-tasking biotch.

  8. #2848
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malacite View Post
    >.> Ok you just contradicted yourself Izzy, as you stated in another thread the whole point of the WHM Melee with your Mjollnir + K Club in merit pt was to spam mystic boon... so why would you spam Mystic Boon if you're not Curing?

    Multi-tasking biotch.
    1. Mjollnir will produce infinitely better WS numbers than Templace Mace, as well as significantly better DoT.

    2. Good WHMs should be pumping most of their MP into Regens and Hastes in merit parties, making the Cure potency on the Mace fairly irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malacite View Post
    >.> Ok you just contradicted yourself Izzy, as you stated in another thread the whole point of the WHM Melee with your Mjollnir + K Club in merit pt was to spam mystic boon... so why would you spam Mystic Boon if you're not Curing?

    Multi-tasking biotch.
    Quote me where I said, "The point of WHM melee with Mjollnir and K.Club is to spam Mystic Boon". I have never said that. I said that you CAN do that, and the rate you get TP ALLOWS you to do that so you can get mp when you NEED it.

    You're a pretty shitty WHM if you have to constantly spam Mystic Boon to keep your MP up. I only have to do it once when my MP drops below 200 and I'm back to 75%+.

  10. #2850
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    Quote Originally Posted by TummieGaruda View Post
    Not if you are competent to know how to melee and cure at the same time. 2nd and 3rd floor Appolyon SE comes to mind, especially when you lowman it.
    Forgot how needed this is, oh wait.. hahahahahahahahahahah sad.

    PS if any WHM gets anything but Yagrush now they are completely retarded, thx.

  11. #2851
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafleshia View Post
    Late-congrats, but better late than never! Also couldn't help but notice that at least 2 rdms you might play with will love you even more. Duelist's Chapeau is needed I see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtuous Saint View Post
    Forgot how needed this is, oh wait.. hahahahahahahahahahah sad.

    PS if any WHM gets anything but Yagrush now they are completely retarded, thx.
    Not sure what you are talking about in the first part so I'll just ignore it and say it's nothing but loud noises signifying nothing.

    Yagrush is designed to augment Divine Viel, yeah we know, just seems like an expensive macro swap piece to me for when you need some -na loving on your pt or alliance, but other than that, any WHM that is curing is going to be using Apollo Staff most if not all of the time as it is. If Yagrush had some +cure potency built into it, then it would be a different story.

    Mjollnir is more for the melee WHM, and let's face it, meleeing with Yagrush isn't going to be all that great unless you are storing up 300% doing Mystic Boon and just spaming a low end WS over Hexa Strike to keep up Aftermath. Besides, Mjollnir has MP recovery built in as an added effect. If a WHM wants a nice melee toy, Mjollnir is the way to go. Yagrush just seems mighty boring to me.

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    Yagrush will be LS funded: Hello perma whm to LS events

    Mjollnir is self funded: You decide what you do in party. gtfo people who dont know how useful WHM melee can be. maybe you got butthurt being outparse somewhere

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    Why did I read "butthurt" as "burtgang" at first?

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    Why is Mjollnir relic ws never mentioned?
    Unless wiki is wrong, +20 accuracy on the user AND -40 evasion ("Shield Break attack" translates into that according wiki) on target doesn't seem something to overlook.

    It also has good WS mods and somewhat decent ftp.
    It's obviously inferior to Hexa in terms of raw damage but its utility should make up for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevex View Post
    Why is Mjollnir relic ws never mentioned?
    Unless wiki is wrong, +20 accuracy on the user AND -40 evasion ("Shield Break attack" translates into that according wiki) on target doesn't seem something to overlook.

    It also has good WS mods and somewhat decent ftp.
    It's obviously inferior to Hexa in terms of raw damage but its utility should make up for that.
    The WS sucks. I parse 10-15% lower when I use Randgrith compared to Hexa Strike only. It's only good for zerging shit so you can put some Shield Break on the mob.

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    Izzy where is your price is right sig from? Ive been trying to figure it out @.@;

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    how i met your mother

  19. #2859
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuko_Asura View Post
    Uncapped Acc, PCC > any non-Love Torque, torque

    If you were kidding, nevermind.
    I'm not so sure this is true for PUP, since they actually get an extra damage rating out of it and the full +7 acc, provided that they have full h2h merits.

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    Standard search of player's name yielded nothing, so posting this. Don't know the guy or anything about him.

    Eidyn - Seraph - Yoichinoyumi

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