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  1. #3241
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    Quote Originally Posted by laverna View Post
    But for a DRK to MB Lambton Worm with Aero2 and no natural magic attack bonus? Think the DRK is better off sitting that one out >.> Im not handy with the magic math but like what kind of damage would that be?
    Bait

  2. #3242
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint View Post
    Bait
    Totally hooked 'em. :/

  3. #3243
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    Wish Mnk had better hate generation tools so we could tank HNM style mobs

  4. #3244
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    Do what war\nin and sam\nin does, spam nin tools

  5. #3245
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    DRK's damage is very comparable to WAR and SAM's on anything you want to DD tank :/ you make it out as if WAR and SAM are the only DDs in this dying game.

  6. #3246
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    http://i36.tinypic.com/svs1mc.png

    ^_^ posted it in the wrong area the first time, woops mistake on my behalf

    completed - 4:43am CST 9/19/09

  7. #3247
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    I hope the lack of sTP is due to looksgear and that he won't be 6hit /sam with that

    Nice looking DRG though, am guessing is just looksgear.

  8. #3248
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    yeah he said if your going to idel, do it in the most expensive shit you own lol hes working on rebuilding a 6 hit with the lower delay he said he'll probably be using Askar Body till Aurum Cuirass drops, which means \o/ more ZNM spam.

  9. #3249
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raen Ryong View Post
    I hope the lack of sTP is due to looksgear and that he won't be 6hit /sam with that

    Nice looking DRG though, am guessing is just looksgear.
    I Know you meant HASTE.

  10. #3250
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    Nice looking DRG though, am guessing is just looksgear.
    But... Aurum does look cool... why else would they use that skin again?

  11. #3251
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raen Ryong View Post
    Nice looking DRG though, am guessing is just looksgear.
    Well, given that he's wearing what looks like a wedding ring...

  12. #3252
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    I've seen a DRG melee in hecatomb and a wedding ring before =(

    Obviously this guy isn't a retard though.

  13. #3253
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    I Know you meant HASTE.
    Haha nah, it was obvious that it was a looks setup... just if no sTP body/rose strap/etc came on (since town grip is not common and I know so many drgs who'd use ares over askar/aurum despite losing 6hit), was just predicting the worst I guess

    FFXI makes you so cynical!

  14. #3254
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shenrien View Post
    yeah he said if your going to idel, do it in the most expensive shit you own lol hes working on rebuilding a 6 hit with the lower delay he said he'll probably be using Askar Body till Aurum Cuirass drops, which means \o/ more ZNM spam.
    Lower delay? <_<

  15. #3255
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    Sword Strap I imagine.

  16. #3256
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    That's a platinum/claymore grip (Latter I assume since most people +1 Plat. at the very least), and if my maffs are correct it's very annoying to get the proper sTP for sword strap that you might as well use a pole grip.

  17. #3257
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    is there any case when you shouldn't be using pole grip?

  18. #3258
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    rng

  19. #3259
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    Sword strap is better when you can use it and still not lose your x-hit. Without making sacrifices for additional stp, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andradi View Post
    TP gain is based on delay but different delay means different # of hits to get to 100, which can vary the amount of time taken to get 100 hugely.

    In this case, a 7 hit with Ragnarok is only barely slower than a 6 hit with naglering.
    exactly whats with people without relic weapons always saying 6 hit build is sooo much better then 7 hit build.

    Lets say rag is 1 sec faster on its swing then nag. You need a 7 hit build so 7 swings which is by my example 7 seconds faster total.

    Nager needs 6 swings but is 6 seconds slower then ragnorok.... wouldn't they get 100TP around the same time? Also factor in that nag can miss an attack completely and get no TP gain where rag can land all of its attacks and get 100TP faster.

    Then someone said naga WS harder then ragnorok? Rag has 1 more base dmg, thats stronger then +20 attack. Not sure if Great sword weaponskills can crit hit but if they can, then rag increases that even more on WS.

    There is very little ragnorok's on all the servers to even know exactly if the sword is down grade or not.
    The rag that I seen did 10 crit hits in a row and it was a DRK, so it wasn't mighty strikes. I think the aftermath also increases crit hit damage not just crit hit rate.

    You also need to factor in the fact that this weapon has the highest crit hit output in the entire game and its a VERY high possibilty that your 2.5x proc will be a crit hit proc 2.5x which I would assume would do major damage as it would be a
    -Crit hit
    -Extra crit hit damage (not rate) with brave grip
    -2.5x of that damage

    That proc alone would probably do more then 1000 damage assuming a crit hit from a great sword does at least 450.
    I won't go dissing the ragnorok just yet until you see one in action and run actual tests and not speculation or if nag is better or not.

    It should have 90 base DMG though >_>

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