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  1. #4201
    Ridill
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    Gurfurlur is a dick

  2. #4202
    Somewhere, someone is trying to hate me to death for my crusade of trying to convince everyone that AV is defeatable.
    (PS: Kill yourself)

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    There is virtually nothing in the game that is needed for you to win something. Bartholomew's Knife is one tho;;. What I can tell you is that if that Koenig PLD was tanking mage lamps like we do they could easily be killed instantly from 2 simultaneous T4s, but the final form, if you were to straight tank that I promise you, you are going to want an Aegis lol (Nothing can save you on the final form when it does curse>T3ga however).

  3. #4203
    Demosthenes11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starr View Post
    Grats Spruck, the only person I ever saw go into Excellence a nice person and not turn into a complete knob who thought he was a superhuman.
    ;; Y U HERT ME

  4. #4204
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    Godou - Totsukanotsurugi (Stage 4 Great Katana)
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    I saw this back on September 1st, 2009. He only had it at stage 4 but I figure by now he probably has it completed.

  5. #4205
    Cerberus
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    Stage 5 or gtfo!

  6. #4206
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kagomie View Post
    To the whole Aegis-Is-Needed-For-PW. A few months ago, Neosutra posted Pheonix's attempt on PW. Our tanks were Myself (Aegis), Neosutra (Aegis) and Mrhomie (Koenig)

    At the time, Neo and Homie had/were standing in -Phys. Damage Taken Gear (Haute for Homie, Both Neo and Homie have 2/2 Val) while I used a standard Acc/Haste with Joy. (Neo was using Joy also). Over all the forms, the only one that Aegis really really saved my ass would be Gurfurlur. Other than that one form, Homie did just as well as either Aegis PLD. They'd have to come on here to post their own idle sets for the fight though.

    All and all, No, even from an Aegis POV, it's not needed for PW. At least not for the pre-true form stage, as our final form strat was a zerg method so.. yeah.
    All and all not to disagree with you but Homie is a great paladin as well, I miss pw fights with HM and neo. No relic is needed for any fight tbh. Massholes unite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sev View Post
    All and all not to disagree with you but Homie is a great paladin as well, I miss pw fights with HM and neo. No relic is needed for any fight tbh. Massholes unite.
    Fuck yeah Mass.

    Honestly, I'd take any relic and love it, and I'm sure I would use it all the time.

  8. #4208
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miraun View Post
    Fuck yeah Mass.

    Honestly, I'd take any relic and love it, and I'm sure I would use it all the time.

  9. #4209
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kagomie View Post
    All and all, No, even from an Aegis POV, it's not needed for PW. At least not for the pre-true form stage, as our final form strat was a zerg method so.. yeah.
    No offense, but you guys didn't even make it to the final form.

  10. #4210
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    And he didn't say anything about the final form, just going with the point that aegis is not needed in most of the forms he seen. You are trying to be offensive, but don't worry, no one cares.

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    Yoshi P
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    No, I'm just saying that he can't use his personal experience to justify whether or not it's necessary if he hasn't even fought the form that people are saying it is most useful for. Make sense?

  12. #4212
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    Quote Originally Posted by Therin View Post
    No, I'm just saying that he can't use his personal experience to justify whether or not it's necessary if he hasn't even fought the form that people are saying it is most useful for. Make sense?
    Having killed PW I can 100% say Aegis is not needed for the final form.

  13. #4213
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    And like he and I both said he is talking about all the other forms. So trying to take a cheap shot because the only thing you can do is go to a PW and watch instead of being useful.

  14. #4214
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    Aegis allows you to idle in a much superior body piece while keeping the lowered CE lost from dreadstorm and such. If you have aegis vbody turns into a very situational piece. Mrhomie also had 20% mdt which was right up with the aegis plds there. He also had a superior pdt set compared to neo/kag. Oh and outside of continueing a light/darkness is there anything that any relic is needed? What are we debating?

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    Vandyr, I didn't say a single thing about it's usefulness against the final form because I'm well aware that we did not make it to that segment to the fight. I even made a reference to the post that Neosutra had made when we attempted the fight. So if anyone would to be curious, they could see how far we had gotten by going to that post.

    Next time you want to open your mouth with a pot shot at me, just remember you were on the side lines of that fight, thus, you should take a bit of your own "cannot use personal experience" and just shut up.

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    Hey feegs, stop arguing about that and start arguing about how Aegis and G-horn can't make continuing Light/Darkness.

    I move that Requiem with G-horn and Shield Bash with Aegis become continuing Light. They're underpowered right now and definitely need the boost.

  17. #4217
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kagomie View Post
    Next time you want to open your mouth with a pot shot at me, just remember you were on the side lines of that fight, thus, you should take a bit of your own "cannot use personal experience" and just shut up.
    Hey bros, it wasn't a pot shot. Hence the "no offense" phrase prefacing my statement.

    I don't take pot shots. If I don't like someone, I'm up front with them, and I have no problem with you (or Yabai, but apparently he doesn't like me!).

    I never said anything about my own experience - I've never fought PW. I was just simply pointing out that when people say "you need Aegis for PW", they're not talking about any of his other forms because it's obvious that you can do all of those just fine with a Koenig Shield. Instead, they're talking about his near-instant cast -ga spells that he can use rapidly during the final stage.

  18. #4218
    Roll tide y'all
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    I don't like you Therin. You want a White Tathlum for god knows what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeowin View Post
    I don't like you Therin. You want a White Tathlum for god knows what.

    White Tathlum for Bravura TP set!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeowin View Post
    I don't like you Therin. You want a White Tathlum for god knows what.
    It wasn't for me, it was requested by a member for bank payout.

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