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  1. #4501
    TSwiftie
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    Quote Originally Posted by FailureMidgard View Post
    A relic player should have intelligent/proper gear choices elsewhere, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with looking at a damage/cost ratio and getting a relic before a shitty HQ accuracy ring.
    ^This. I have no expectations for a relic player to have maxed out gear. I do expect them to make smart decisions though. Lots of people need to make a few sacrifices to finish a relic, there's just a smart way to do it.

  2. #4502
    We wear wine red on Wednesdays

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    I agree, I planned on maybe doing the ENM for a Toreador's a while before finishing Amano, but now I really have no use for it. I think most 2-handed relic holders with intelligent gear sets are most likely capped on accuracy for the majority of end game events. If I were back in the old days camping Nid and other HNM, I might consider putting out the money for one.

    Though even with Pizza/+1 for most of those events, I can't imagine being uncapped on accuracy. I'll stick with my Iota or go try some sniper's augments.

  3. #4503
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uryuu View Post
    Big difference between 2 accuracy and 2 haste, though. He's commenting on the ring, not anything else. Unless I misunderstood.
    Even dusk+1, last I did some rough math, buying a Vbelt for 10-15m was more worthwhile than going for my Amano, but Dusk+1 at 20m was worse. But ya, that was based on rough estimates/etc, as it gets pretty hard to accurately figure out the value of Kaiten and all.


    But ya, in general, the 7 acc rings are vastly overrated. That being said, they are quite a good purchase for DDs that are -not- going for a relic due to a: not having to come up with 100m+ to create the relic, and b: not having +20acc on their weapon. If/when I get my Amano, I'll be TPing in Iota or Flame, depending on target's evasion. I'd like a 7acc ring sometime after that, but meh.

  4. #4504
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aksannyi View Post
    something superfluous like a KC
    KC > relic

    The end.

  5. #4505
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    KC > relic

    The end.
    Sad but true :/


    EDIT: n00b off-handing Vajra... better off with X's Knife since that stupid update SE did years ago. If he wants his aftermath & the other nice buffs he'll have to reverse the weapons.


    Someone tested it way back in this thread, this is about the 2nd or 3rd Vajra posted so far. I think they found it to be around 7~10% damage increase on SA & TA?

  6. #4506
    Absolute Messenger of Promathia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malacite View Post
    EDIT: n00b off-handing Vajra... better off with X's Knife since that stupid update SE did years ago. If he wants his aftermath & the other nice buffs he'll have to reverse the weapons.
    He'd be better off with Heartsnatcher than Vajra's in the offhand ^^





    (I know he's just showing it off dur)

  7. #4507
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    Midgard - Ariethil - Yoichinoyumi

  8. #4508
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    Quote Originally Posted by Necronus View Post
    Midgard - Ariethil - Yoichinoyumi
    That is some sexy town gear.

  9. #4509
    I Have The Clap Again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    KC > relic

    The end.
    I'm with this guy

  10. #4510
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    Bismarck - Discoid

    Gratz Masimmo on his self-funded Bravura!

    http://i568.photobucket.com/albums/s...ra_Masimmo.png

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    In before no Blitz Ring and Askar Zucchetto rage.

    edit: Oh shit I just looked at that picture again, TT you moved servers!?

  12. #4512
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    Hey look its Gaybar

  13. #4513
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurara View Post
    Hey look its Gaybar
    First thing I noticed too.

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    Haha, nicely caught.

  15. #4515
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    He's probably going to use turban, we just got his fragment after xarc and went straight to ru'lude lol.

  16. #4516
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinsei View Post
    He's probably going to use turban, we just got his fragment after xarc and went straight to ru'lude lol.
    Probably as in he didn't before and wasn't just fucking with us?

    :SADFACE:

  17. #4517
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcicus View Post
    In before no Blitz Ring and Askar Zucchetto rage.

    edit: Oh shit I just looked at that picture again, TT you moved servers!?
    Obviously his Aggresor down set.

  18. #4518
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    If you guys are so obsessed with someone's gear why dont u make a mule and ask him yourself lol? Christ

    I personally didnt get my full kaiten build until after I actually got the amano, but hey, whatever that makes you sleep at night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinsei View Post
    If you guys are so obsessed with someone's gear why dont u make a mule and ask him yourself lol? Christ
    Stop newfaggin' it up. You know how it works around here.

  20. #4520
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    no i do not.

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