Completed Relic/Mythic weapons list

[Mythe_Seraph]

Mandau/Blau rapes the shit out of Mandau/X's.

The sheer speed advantage of Blau, not to mention the 5acc/16atk, trumps X's.

Good one buddy.

[Thorny]

Mandau/Blau rapes the shit out of Mandau/X's.

The sheer speed advantage of Blau, not to mention the 5acc/16atk, trumps X's.

I apologize on behalf of Remora for Arucaurd believing he can logic.

Another goody by him: http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/jobs.h...&num=62&page=1

I love how his gimpy ls allows him to keep everything they sell for 'relics' when it took them 2 years to finish just his ^^;

He also shouts in whitegate to sell yovra organs for 500k about 4 hours a day, when nobody is interested.

[pchan]

Mandau/Blau rapes the shit out of Mandau/X's.

The sheer speed advantage of Blau, not to mention the 5acc/16atk, trumps X's.

I bet you don't have X's ?

[bsphil]

I bet you don't have X's ?

I bet you're pchan.

[Leroy]

It's called simple math.

Mandau/Blau is 6-7% faster, has 16 more attack and 5 acc. You're giving up 7% more DoT/WSs to get 10% more damage on less than all of your hits, and it adds less than 10% damage to Mercy Stroke due to offhand swing and Triple procs not critting. 16atk on MC is nice as well.

[Malacite]

O.o jesus Christ Mythe, when did you do that WS that's in your sig?

^^ I remember you owning the ACP Fei'Yin BC with Mercy Stroke but YIKES. I don't see how anyone can say Blau beats a +10% critical hit damage boost with a straight face.

Say you do 2000k+ SA Mercy with Blau in the offhand; Well, X's is gonna bump that up to 2200+. Really not seeing how a bit of extra DoT is going to make up for the huge gains in spike damage, which is what THF's all about in the 1st place. Controlled spike damage.

[The_OG_Nelta]

It's called simple math.

Mandau/Blau is 6-7% faster, has 16 more attack and 5 acc. You're giving up 7% more DoT/WSs to get 10% more damage on less than all of your hits, and it adds less than 10% damage to Mercy Stroke due to offhand swing and Triple procs not critting. 16atk on MC is nice as well.

shhhhhhhhhhhh.

[Kipling]

O.o jesus Christ Mythe, when did you do that WS that's in your sig?

It's quite common with Aura Steal and good gear/buffs on JOL for relic thieves.

[Thorny]

It's called simple math.

Mandau/Blau is 6-7% faster, has 16 more attack and 5 acc. You're giving up 7% more DoT/WSs to get 10% more damage on less than all of your hits, and it adds less than 10% damage to Mercy Stroke due to offhand swing and Triple procs not critting. 16atk on MC is nice as well.

Protip: On any target that matters, SA and TA(including when combined with mercy stroke) will be composing a much larger portion of your damage than melee. Guess what, those are guaranteed criticals. There are situations where Mandau/Blau can outparse Mandau/X's, and even some where Blau/Sirocco can outparse X's/Sirocco or X's/Blau.. merit parties. Unfortunately, in those situations, you shouldn't really be on THF to begin with as an AH standard war with a rune chopper will shit all over anything you can dream of doing damage-wise.

[chiyio]

Mandau/Blau rapes the shit out of Mandau/X's.

The sheer speed advantage of Blau, not to mention the 5acc/16atk, trumps X's.

Spoken like a true "X's is too hard to get" thf.

[Leroy]

If you do 2000 with blau Offhand you'll do about 2100 with X's offhand, or even less if Triple procs were involved. This is because the pDIF increase from Blau affects both hits, and not just the first like x's

[Thorny]

If you do 2000 with blau Offhand you'll do about 2100 with X's offhand, or even less if Triple procs were involved. This is because the pDIF increase from Blau affects both hits, and not just the first like x's

4 cereal, 16 attack is 5% damage on a criticaled hit.

For the sake of making this funnier:

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/261...9ahturhgan.jpg
Who needs a 6-hit anyway?

[Leroy]

I'll be back in about an hour to hold your hand while I go over this for your slow ass.

[Thorny]

I'll be back in about an hour to hold your hand while I go over this for your slow ass.

Brah, you've still got an online bubble after 30 minutes. What's wrong, flame ring got your tongue?

[The_OG_Nelta]

Need more Sath in here.

[Cairthenn]

I love all the concrete math Leroy is using to refute what's been established. Anyone else fascinated by his amazing, innovative calculations to prove his points? I never could have guessed we were wrong all this time.

[Marcicus]

And here I was thinking those were two Mars' Rings. Damn.

[Argettio]

I love all the concrete math Leroy is using to refute what's been established. Anyone else fascinated by his amazing, innovative calculations to prove his points? I never could have guessed we were wrong all this time.

Yeah he makes Thorny look like:
http://images.inmagine.com/img/ojoim.../pe0065048.jpg

Simply stunning how he so gracefully proved that 16 attack is 5% damage on a forced crit.

[Leroy]

I went away from the laptop to take care of something you fagot, I know it's hard to comprehend someone being able to move away from their computer.

As for my gear, I know it's far from complete, I never said it was. I just have to go to upper jeuno to get my rajas, though it hasn't been needed yet, because I have a personal COR, which usually takes care of the STP, and 7 stacks of arrabbiatta if I need the STP. On birds, I'm tanking anyway, so the tp from getting hit gives me enough to keep a 6-hit.

My gimpy ls isn't top tier, and we only have 10-16 for runs, but my friends stick with me because I get shit done, get them their gear, and make them gil.

It took two years to get Apoc done because at first it was only Currency from Dynamis going towards it, but then we finally got done getting drops and started selling them and splitting gil. It may have taken 2years to get Apoc, but it'll only take 4 months for Aegis, we're already halfway done.

Btw, I remember a certain fucktard saying my ls couldn't take the attestation or fragment nms ourselves. Fuck you, we did it. I'm happy with my ls, and I'm happy with the progress I've made on my gear.

[Thorny]

Weak example(Colibri, adequately buffed, ignoring pdif cap) 650 attack / 322 def = 2.01 - .3 lvcorrect = 1.71 666 / 322 def = 2.06 - .3 lvcorrect = 1.76 crit adds 1 pdif
2.76 / 2.71 = 1.8% increase in damage

Strong example(600 defense, poor buffs, 15 level correction) 300 attack / 600 def = .5 - .75 = -.25, crit = .75. 316 attack / 600 def = .52 - .75 = -.23 + 1 = .77
.77 / .75 = 2.6% increase in damage

If offhand triple attacked 100%, you still wouldn't ever break a 3-4% damage increase on WS from blau's attack in any conditions.

I went away from the laptop to take care of something you fagot, I know it's hard to comprehend someone being able to move away from their computer.

If you don't do any clicks on BG, it'll change you to offline on account of the connection not being constant, but rather individual connections each request. Hurf.

As for my gear, I know it's far from complete, I never said it was. I just have to go to upper jeuno to get my rajas, though it hasn't been needed yet, because I have a personal COR, which usually takes care of the STP, and 7 stacks of arrabbiatta if I need the STP. On birds, I'm tanking anyway, so the tp from getting hit gives me enough to keep a 6-hit.

I'm glad everyone approves of getting SAM roll instead of chaos or corsair's when you're present on DRK.

My gimpy ls isn't top tier, and we only have 10-16 for runs, but my friends stick with me because I get shit done, get them their gear, and make them gil. It took two years to get Apoc done because at first it was only Currency from Dynamis going towards it, but then we finally got done getting drops and started selling them and splitting gil. It may have taken 2years to get Apoc, but it'll only take 4 months for Aegis, we're already halfway done.

Alright, so a fair split was given out and you got a relic on your own accord while the rest of your ls got the same amount of gil as you did and is nowhere near one? You must make a killing selling those yovra organs.

Btw, I remember a certain fucktard saying my ls couldn't take the attestation or fragment nms ourselves. Fuck you, we did it. I'm happy with my ls, and I'm happy with the progress I've made on my gear.

Would you like a cookie? It's not particularly hard, just unreliable with low numbers. Care to show me where exactly I said your ls couldn't take it?

Regardless, I thought we were talking about X's vs Blau. I'd love to hear your explanation for how the attack gives half as much of an increase as X's bonus does.