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  1. #5081
    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!
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    So, Melee would have capped acc vs all those mobs and have no use for hunters? What would be a better roll?

    Odin and DI are strongly ranged fights so you should be in the ranger party either way.

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    They should be capped or close to on those mobs, and use Sushi if you need it. SAM or WAR would both be improvements.

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    just been the prick i am and going all out saying DP is the best good for cor (i don't have the figures just saying it is for this current sake of mind)

    COR is rolling hunters roll for acc and wizards roll for QD (yes i know no party in there right mind would ask for this)

    with QD damage + aftermath effect kicking in wouldn't it be better for cor with DP then SC?

    and i'm not sure if we've noticed the sweet little money maker of the gun

    Occasionally deals double damage welcome to why it might actully out damage another gun

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    Why is everyone skipping the fact that DP is a mythic and has an aftermath effect? Even if 300% aftermath doesn't work with Slugshot, it would still add a good chunk for ranged tp. 100/200% ones aren't bad either.

    Edit: Kinda got beaten to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odin'sLaw View Post
    Occasionally deals double damage welcome to why it might actully out damage another gun
    This actually brings up the thought: would level 3 aftermath effect QD itself? The gun doesn't specify if it is just "ranged attacks will occasionally deal double damage". So... 1200 QD gogo!?

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    You people are fucking retarded.

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    What do you mean "you people"?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    What do you mean "you people"?!
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    what do YOU mean you people?

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    That 3 post exchange was better than the past 2 pages in total. You should all be ashamed.

    OUT =>

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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    That 3 post exchange was better than the past 2 pages in total. You should all be ashamed.

    OUT =>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jornna View Post
    Odin and DI are strongly ranged fights so you should be in the ranger party either way.
    Sam with standard gear will outparse perfect rngs on both fights if the sam isn't awful at moving when needed. And doesn't need any excess support, just support that's paying attention. 1rdm, 1brd, 4sam is a perfect party on both Odin and DI.

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    Sorry, the 'should level SAM instead' thread is Post Pictures of Your Gear, you may have gotten lost

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    Quote Originally Posted by FailureMidgard View Post
    1rdm, 1brd, 4sam is a perfect party on Odin.
    I lol'd

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto View Post
    Sorry, the 'should level SAM instead' thread is Post Pictures of Your Gear, you may have gotten lost
    Where is the "you should learn to read" thread.

    Here, I'll summarize this for you.

    Person A: You may be in a melee party that wants melee songs.
    Idiot A: Corsairs go in ranger parties only, RNG is the only way!
    Reasonable Person A: Sam can outdamage ranger. Why RNG only exactly?
    Idiot B: Sorry, the 'should level SAM instead' thread is Post Pictures of Your Gear, you may have gotten lost.

    Ranger has it's advantage on said fights. That advantage is you don't have to pay much attention to not getting raped by various AoEs. I have no problem with rangers on either fight. I only have a problem with people who refuse to acknowledge the viability of melee.

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    Doesn't 'any melee DD' apply more than 'samonry' in this situation?

    It's the only DD who benefits from melee songs, oddly enough.

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    Note the word perfect. He didn't say other melee didn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andradi View Post
    Doesn't 'any melee DD' apply more than 'samonry' in this situation?

    It's the only DD who benefits from melee songs, oddly enough.
    Yes, but I strongly believe Odin is a fight melee should /nin on, the worse of the AoEs are absorbed by shadows, and if you're a good DD, you -will- pull hate occasionally, but it's insanely easy to take 0 damage from his melee. And Sam loses the least from /nin of any melee (since /sam is really the best SJ bar none), and you can ride Hasso most the fight, as long as you click it off when you pull hate.

    And I don't get the lol comment...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuko_Asura View Post
    Note the word perfect. He didn't say other melee didn't work.
    I said a standard sam can outparse a perfect ranger. Ranger's benefit is not it's damage, it's the ability to avoid AoE damage. Furthermore, most good rangers I've seen will still hate cap if they sub anything but nin, and then shit gets messy (they die). If they aren't pulling hate, then I don't think there's any possible way they can compete with good melee DD on damage output.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carrilei View Post
    Bad CORs only melee in merits.

    You should be meleeing the large majority of mobs in Salvage.. Same for Nyzul, Einherjar, Limbus, Dynamis, etc..
    If you use /ra, you're not gaining as much TP as you possibly can over time using a Joytoy/mkris. Sorry, but imo you're doing it way wrong if you /ra.

    Correct me if I'm wrong prz.

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