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  1. #501
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    Cool, so now we have two weapons we're waiting for info on O.O

    How crazy are the Lv 75 pacts now with AM1?! (I think it's AM1 that gives MAB?) Oh good lord, that means AM3 will give 45% chance to DA on the 70 pacts... O.O 4-hit predator claws! (it is just the first hit right? Otherwise Shiva's Rush just got a whole lot nastier)

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    Pretty sure DA on a BP is just a regular extra hit and not an extra BP hit.

    Meaning that it only adds like 50 damage and not hundreds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malacite View Post
    Cool, so now we have two weapons we're waiting for info on O.O

    How crazy are the Lv 75 pacts now with AM1?! (I think it's AM1 that gives MAB?) Oh good lord, that means AM3 will give 45% chance to DA on the 70 pacts... O.O 4-hit predator claws! (it is just the first hit right? Otherwise Shiva's Rush just got a whole lot nastier)
    aftermath 1,2 are acc attack, or attack acc, the only bonus the 75 pacts get are the +20 mab from the weapon itself.

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    the DA will be pretty disappointing on avatars if it does what the DA from Redingote does for BPs...

    However, the TP gain from the AM3 DAing will be something else for the avatars..

    really, the beauty of this weapon is that everyone already knows what it does aside from the Aftermath stuff, which really isn't the main focus for the job anyway, since u're not gonna get to use it much

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Pretty sure DA on a BP is just a regular extra hit and not an extra BP hit.

    Meaning that it only adds like 50 damage and not hundreds.
    And where are you pulling this from? Someone above just said that the AM3 was confirmed on automaton WS, so why would blood pacts be an exception?

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    What do you mean where is he pulling this from? He said a Double Attack on a Blood Pact is normal hit damage, not that Blood Pacts won't be affected by AM3. That info comes from a discussion thread on these forums about it.

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    AM3 Double attack on melee avatar hits would also mean higher TP values when activating Tier 2 BP's... would love to see some testing regardless.

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    Inc Vajra info:

    - Using Sneak Attack gives you a DEX bonus (and subsequent damage bonus based on that DEX amount). For example, if you have 100 total DEX, the damage bonus is about 8-18% he says.
    - He hasn't tested Trick Attack yet due to it being rather difficult to test without someone there that wants to test with him.
    - He also said though that Mandau >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vajra. =\

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    Mandau is the shit, this is nothing new.

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    Seems safe to say that in melee/DD situations, all Mythics pale in comparison to their relic counterparts. Although the Augmented/Enhanced portions on the weapons are unique, they don't seem powerful enough to warrent their use over Relics in majority or all situations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epical View Post
    Inc Vajra info:

    - Using Sneak Attack gives you a DEX bonus (and subsequent damage bonus based on that DEX amount). For example, if you have 100 total DEX, the damage bonus is about 8-18% he says.
    - He hasn't tested Trick Attack yet due to it being rather difficult to test without someone there that wants to test with him.
    - He also said though that Mandau >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vajra. =\
    Not surprised... I believe most if not all of the community believed that this is what the enhancement would be...basically the same as Rogue's Armlets +1 in that it gives a % boost based on current stat amount.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirschy View Post
    Seems safe to say that in melee/DD situations, all Mythics pale in comparison to their relic counterparts. Although the Augmented/Enhanced portions on the weapons are unique, they don't seem powerful enough to warrent their use over Relics in majority or all situations.
    I think that is what bothers a lot of people in that it is a lot more work for a weapon that is subpar to the RoTZ Counterpart, but that is a dead horse topic. Any word on Lv3 AM stacking with Triple Attack?

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    Thanks very much for the info, Epical. It does seem like it's going to prolly come out to the 15% attribute bonus like AF+1 hands. Some of us were also hoping for an added pDif bonus or otherwise straight multiplier, but meh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TummieGaruda View Post
    I think that is what bothers a lot of people in that it is a lot more work for a weapon that is subpar to the RoTZ Counterpart, but that is a dead horse topic. Any word on Lv3 AM stacking with Triple Attack?
    See:
    E.body -> Ares's,
    Kings -> ZNMs,
    Sky -> Sea,
    Limbus -> Assaults,
    etc.

    All content is getting harder and harder for increasingly worse rewards .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirschy View Post
    Seems safe to say that in melee/DD situations, all Mythics pale in comparison to their relic counterparts. Although the Augmented/Enhanced portions on the weapons are unique, they don't seem powerful enough to warrent their use over Relics in majority or all situations.
    I am pretty sure ryunohige will beat drg relic, due to it's know effects of forcing crits on jumps[relic can't proc on jumps], and it's aftermath using drg's ws of choice, unless base dmg/acc gonna beat the DA and awesome jump dmg.

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    Nirvana > Claustrum


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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
    You were cold as ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by byte View Post
    See:
    E.body -> Ares's,
    Kings -> ZNMs,
    Sky -> Sea,
    Limbus -> Assaults,
    etc.

    All content is getting harder and harder for increasingly worse rewards .
    So sad, but so true lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by byte View Post
    See:
    E.body -> Ares's,
    Kings -> ZNMs,
    Sky -> Sea,
    Limbus -> Assaults,
    etc.

    All content is getting harder and harder for increasingly worse rewards .
    I'm not sure how any of your example is harder than the first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by byte View Post
    See:
    E.body -> Ares's,
    Kings -> ZNMs,
    Sky -> Sea,
    Limbus -> Assaults,
    etc.

    All content is getting harder and harder for increasingly worse rewards .
    That's somewhat true. Although, Salvage > All (in the majority of cases.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by byte View Post
    See:
    E.body -> Ares's,
    Kings -> ZNMs,
    Sky -> Sea,
    Limbus -> Assaults,
    etc.

    All content is getting harder and harder for increasingly worse rewards .
    You sir left your thinking cap at home today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairthenn View Post
    You sir left your thinking cap at home today.
    nothing new cair^^

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