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  1. #5561
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sydneysam View Post
    Whoa god damn, please qoute my FFXIAH sets some more, none of that shit is even what I use or setup anyways. but if it makes you feel better I can post my actual gear for you.
    Then why is it there? Are you telling us you're a liar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sydneysam View Post
    I sat and did the numbers myself and concluded 5 hit wasn't worth it compared to a proper haste build but I have no hard numbers to back it up so its all my opinion of course but I'd like to see any parses with you because I honestly doubt you could out parse a 6hit with far better ws gear than what you sacrifice to use to get your 5hit. Also as someone who has had Amanno for some time the +20 doesn't mean shit. I wiff plenty of kaitens



    bet I could outparse, just saying!
    Jesus Christ what the fuck is this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sydneysam View Post
    Whoa god damn, please qoute my FFXIAH sets some more, none of that shit is even what I use or setup anyways. but if it makes you feel better I can post my actual gear for you.

    All I said was I didn't think it would do the same numbers, and yes having Aftermath up would be the key to your setup and as you said isn't practical. None the less your not putting up any numbers either so its just your opinion as well.

    The kaiten wiff comment was a joke too jesus you people are touchy.
    You listed them as your dream sets, my bad. And how am I supposed to know what's a joke? You make a comment basically implying that you need to stack accuracy on Kaiten, or, that's how I read it, expect to get chewed out.

    Also, my first post kinda mentioned that it's not too realistic to keep up aftermath fulltime, and my second post specifically mentioned carbonara, aftermath, and the exact items I was using.

    Also, I did put up #s, I've posted exact stat differences as opposed to your "Far better WS gear" which comes out to 9str. Also, there isn't even any reason to go into specifics because unless we're talking about haste samba, 2hred march, dusk+1 and hasso, it isn't even really close.

    [Edit: Cairthenn's first post made 1 of my points so much better than I did ]

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    His argument is almost as bad as Jammalamma's hair. Avatar for reference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairthenn View Post
    Then why is it there? Are you telling us you're a liar?
    Those were very old and none of them made sense cause I always used those as just way to see what stats would turn out to be, but I had messed with most of them over the years. I put up my real sets though if you'd like to look?

    Jesus does everyone rage on BG like this? Honestly my post was most sarcastic sorry if it was seen otherwise. I have never done any hard numbers so my opinions are based off pure experience and I have been proven wrong before so its all good all I really meant to say was when I did the numbers in my head and on paper having a 5hit with an Amano didn't seem practical compaired to the 6hit builds I compaired it too and what I would have to sacrafice, but honestly the amount of information out there on the subject has only been covered by a small group. Sorry if I really pissed you off failure I need to remind myself that sarcasm never translates in post around here. >.>

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    You're all confused because people don't "notice your sarcasm"... yet, mine was far less subtle. Baww.

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    Also, I did put up #s, I've posted exact stat differences as opposed to your "Far better WS gear" which comes out to 9str. Also, there isn't even any reason to go into specifics because unless we're talking about haste samba, 2hred march, dusk+1 and hasso, it isn't even really close.
    Can you link me to this post, I'd love to read it? Thanks ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sydneysam View Post
    Those were very old and none of them made sense cause I always used those as just way to see what stats would turn out to be, but I had messed with most of them over the years. I put up my real sets though if you'd like to look?

    Jesus does everyone rage on BG like this? Honestly my post was most sarcastic sorry if it was seen otherwise. I have never done any hard numbers so my opinions are based off pure experience and I have been proven wrong before so its all good all I really meant to say was when I did the numbers in my head and on paper having a 5hit with an Amano didn't seem practical compaired to the 6hit builds I compaired it too and what I would have to sacrafice, but honestly the amount of information out there on the subject has only been covered by a small group. Sorry if I really pissed you off failure I need to remind myself that sarcasm never translates in post around here. >.>
    It isn't practical, purely because a 20 sec aftermath will very likely fall off due to delays in pulls/etc. If you have a very good puller in a merit party (or 2 pullers), and are always engaged/autotargetting, the 5hit is very strong, and should outdo a "normal" build. But sure, a vast majority of the time, due to any number of things, you won't have your aftermath up that much, so just swapping between an aftermath build and a noaftermath build is more realistic. Do you do that, out of curiosity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cairthenn View Post
    You're all confused because people don't "notice your sarcasm"... yet, mine was far less subtle. Baww.
    The answer to your avatar is a big no, but props anyway!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sydneysam View Post
    Can you link me to this post, I'd love to read it? Thanks ^^
    I don't really feel like linking to the last page on this thread, no.

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    ^^^^

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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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    God Tsuko, you're quite the happy one today with your smiley little eyes-a-plenty. Don't worry, I won't fault you for it.

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    Holy fuck @ your avatar

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    Is that a good thing...or a bad thing...

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    Still laughing heartily

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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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    It isn't practical, purely because a 20 sec aftermath will very likely fall off due to delays in pulls/etc. If you have a very good puller in a merit party (or 2 pullers), and are always engaged/autotargetting, the 5hit is very strong, and should outdo a "normal" build. But sure, a vast majority of the time, due to any number of things, you won't have your aftermath up that much, so just swapping between an aftermath build and a noaftermath build is more realistic. Do you do that, out of curiosity?
    Yes I have many builds. Do you differ with your builds in eihen/dyn out of curiosity instead of just meriting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sydneysam View Post
    Yes I have many builds. Do you differ with your builds in eihen/dyn out of curiosity instead of just meriting?
    This can't be a serious question, you're too sarcastic to be a serious Samurai.

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    Pretty sure Failure goes AFK during Dynamis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairthenn View Post
    This can't be a serious question, you're too sarcastic to be a serious Samurai.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sydneysam View Post
    Yes I have many builds. Do you differ with your builds in eihen/dyn out of curiosity instead of just meriting?
    I indeed have different builds for varying accuracy, though I'm curious what the fuck you put on in Dynamis (Xarc/Tav excluded) outside of a Flame Ring for TP.
    Oh, for the record, I play other jobs a lot still too, so let's go with my Dynamis set includes a Sorc Ring and Umbra Cape?

    Oh yea, I merit in Korroloka tunnel. Hi-ether Tank, Sol Cap, and Emperor Band.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuko_Asura View Post
    Pretty sure Failure goes AFK during Dynamis
    I wish.

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