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  1. #6061
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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderlips View Post
    Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

    Real CORs get drawn in, pop random deal/wild card and keep QDing till Ouryu is dead or they are.
    Oh I did trust me lol

  2. #6062
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    who else saw the vajra thing comming? not to mention u cant off hand it lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmarelord View Post
    who else saw the vajra thing comming? not to mention u cant off hand it lol.
    saw it from a mile away

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    That and it's already been mentioned before.

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    If you wanna test accuracy, it's an annoying proccess. I used a mix of sleep pots/opo neck and berserkers torque, but you will be stuck using pots/neck. then use a ghrah or aern at garden zone, and do check tests on it til you get a change in evasion message. use ws, and then modify acc until you get the same change in evasion check. Dagger appears to conform to other melee mythics in AM. so you should see a linear increase from 100-199, going from +10-+19 acc.

    Sorry to hear your disappointment with the dagger, but grats~

  6. #6066
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinryuu View Post
    I just won Ouryu parse fairly convincingly on my friend's COR, who has QD recast/accuracy merits and a MAB/QD recast Mirke as well as Denali legs and an Uggi pendant, but nothing special for the rest (Moldy/Drone, AGI+4 rings, Bounding boots, Mage's cuffs, RK belt, NQ Corsair's gun). Borrowed an Auster's, used Warlock's, and shot winds.

    One fight I did 36 QDs and my QD average was 330, with unresisted QDs varying from 388 (Uggi inactive) to 409 (good Wizard's, Uggi) so calculate my resist rate from that (should be fairly low).

    So yeah, Ouryu's not very resistant really. If you're not doing Wind shots and Warlock's it might be a bit different. Then again, another fight I didn't have any wind cards, switched to Aquilo's/ice shot, and didn't noticably decrease resist rate (didn't parse that one though, but I was surprised at the seemingly unchanged amount of unresisted ones).
    Hmm I dunno what the hell the problem was then. My set up is fairly good I think, Austeres/wind grip/af+1head/acpbody/rover's mitts/denalilegs/boundingboots/scouters/etc etc basically just missing obi's and novio. I did not have a rdm in party on ouryu and do not yet have relic hat, fyi.

    Any cor's done iriz ima? I had what felt like a fairly large resist rate on him as well (note: I did not parse these, so maybe eyeballing fail on iriz ima. However, I know I only had about 2 unresisted shots on ouryu in 4 fights)

  7. #6067
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anomander View Post
    Any cor's done iriz ima? I had what felt like a fairly large resist rate on him as well (note: I did not parse these, so maybe eyeballing fail on iriz ima. However, I know I only had about 2 unresisted shots on ouryu in 4 fights)
    That elephant gets a huge temporary resistance boost that wears off over time when he uses that whatever Guard TP move. He may also have a pretty solid MDB boost, I do it on RDM/SCH since it's infinitely faster than COR soloing but unresisted damage is relatively low.

  8. #6068
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anomander View Post
    Any cor's done iriz ima? I had what felt like a fairly large resist rate on him as well (note: I did not parse these, so maybe eyeballing fail on iriz ima. However, I know I only had about 2 unresisted shots on ouryu in 4 fights)
    Soloed Iriz Ima on Cor a good 50+ times (for gil and friends). Callisto is 100% right in that he gets a major resistance when he uses Tusk Barrier (maybe wrong name). Just run around about 3-4 minutes after he uses it and save your shots.

    Other than that I have pretty much never been resisted on him. My gear was a little better than yours but I don't think 5~ agi is going to make/break resistance on him. Maybe you were QDing with an element that goes against the current day you did it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FailureMidgard View Post
    Oh ya, I'm not surprised. Can someone get Starr or Ringthree (I think it was those 2?) in here to tell us why we shouldn't care about our polearm builds.
    My point was not about Polearm or any weapon. My point was that building for and making gearing judgements based on Greater Colibri is not efficient or wise, respectively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree View Post
    My point was not about Polearm or any weapon. My point was that building for and making gearing judgements based on Greater Colibri is not efficient or wise, respectively.
    Well, a lot of end-game mobs are comparible to GC in terms of defense and evasion, no? Wouldn't a build made optimum for GC be on-par or overkill for many mobs, such as in Limbus, Einherjar (tier 1-2, if not most in 3), Salvage, etc?

    Obviously HNMs don't fit into this, but it's not like any SAM would be using a Polearm against those anyways.

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    Thank you okziR you are awesome this is the kind of read I enjoy.

    To your memory, X's got a massive 11 point increase on base damage (23 to 34) on the thief update. That was the turning point for me that made me want to get one. When it was introduced it had a lower base than Thief knife. Please remember the level of X's too =P

    Anyways SE made a huge point about making sure that the mythics were 'not as good' as relics (combat wise, lolclaustrum etc...)) so that might account for the oddness in the selected stats.

    Forgive me on this post if its a repeat of any info in the trailing posts after yours, I didn't read through them yet.

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    So, is the only Mythic yet to be unlocked the Beastmaster one?

  13. #6073
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antithesis View Post
    So, is the only Mythic yet to be unlocked the Beastmaster one?
    I don't recall anyone having DNC but im most likely wrong.

    Edit: Ok, Im wrong, I guess Ena from Caitsith has it but I dont recall it being posted, lol.

  14. #6074
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    Ok wait a sec .. X's knife is better than the mythic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZhiGaruda View Post
    Well, a lot of end-game mobs are comparible to GC in terms of defense and evasion, no? Wouldn't a build made optimum for GC be on-par or overkill for many mobs, such as in Limbus, Einherjar (tier 1-2, if not most in 3), Salvage, etc?

    Obviously HNMs don't fit into this, but it's not like any SAM would be using a Polearm against those anyways.
    I would argue there is a point in making a GC build, but from a non-SAM perspective, I wouldn't necessarily argue that the reason is because of mobility of the set. For other melees, the difference between GC and other mobs is the difference between Kabobs and Pizza/Carbonara. In the case of Pizza, it's an additional 10% ACC which grands slots towards a vast list of items such as Forager's Mantle and in some cases, Blitz ring. As mentioned, SAM is obviously the exception due to the usage of Sushi, but that might prompt changes if the difference in ACC boost (3%?) matters.

    That said, GC is one of the most popular camps, and said sets can be incorporated in activities where you don't necessarily want to use food, but need the ACC. I cannot think of any examples, but perhaps someone else can. Either way, I think the popularity of the camp is enough to justify such sets to a certain extent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titanss View Post
    Ok wait a sec .. X's knife is better than the mythic?
    That seems to be the case, if only for the fact X's abilities work in the offhand.

    X works for all crits, not just SA and TA...

    though...

    X's is harder to get lulz!

  17. #6077
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phraust View Post
    That seems to be the case, if only for the fact X's abilities work in the offhand.

    X works for all crits, not just SA and TA...

    though...

    X's is harder to get lulz!
    so it would go X's> Mythic> Mandau right?

  18. #6078
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leolai View Post
    Kaydee - Amanomurakumo - Asura

    http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...0d717c9b5d.jpg

    Don't blame me for the horrible picture quality, was just asked to post! D:

    Anyways, congrats KD!
    rather late, but why the fuck is this guy using AF+1 hands?

    edit: and Jtorq for that matter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titanss View Post
    so it would go X's> Mythic> Mandau right?
    did you type this wrong? <_<;

    Mandau>X's>Mythic, forgive me if i read this wrong D:

  20. #6080
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    I was under the impression Blau/Sirocco beats X's/Blau in high pDIF situations, which should be attainable on in any situation where you can eat pizza over sushi (einherjar/limbus/city dynamis).

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