Completed Relic/Mythic weapons list

[Zatho]

I'm not gonna disagree that there is a place for /nin but i have seen bravura wars who use /nin 95% of the time like /sam doesn't exist. Then again this are the same wars who don't seem to understand what a 6 hit is either, if u didn't see it my point was directed at the fact that with some relics you can tp in full haste while a keeping a fairly high amount of accuracy. Idk how it is in ur server but in mine we have a large amount of /wrist relic holders. Amano sams using usu feet, bandos and ethereal earring for gekko to mention 1 out of the many.

[FailureMidgard]

I'm not gonna disagree that there is a place for /nin but i have seen bravura wars who use /nin 95% of the time like /sam doesn't exist. Then again this are the same wars who don't seem to understand what a 6 hit is either, if u didn't see it my point was directed at the fact that with some relics you can tp in full haste while a keeping a fairly high amount of accuracy. Idk how it is in ur server but in mine we have a large amount of /wrist relic holders. Amano sams using usu feet, bandos and ethereal earring for gekko to mention 1 out of the many.

Ok, that's fine then. But there are definitely some times where /nin is far and away the ideal subjob. Some various limbus zones have NMs that can literally 1 shot you if 3rd eye goes down, that I vastly prefer /nin for, then a few cop-dynas that just have shitty aoes, etc.

In any case, I agree you can get capped acc with full haste, esp with the +20 on a relic, but if you come to any situation with any weapon, you are better to go meat>pizza before going turban>aces and dusk>10acc gloves, etc. This isn't "bird camp" math. I'm not saying always use pizza by any stretch of the imagination, I'm saying it's pretty ignorant to think the math done here applies only to bird camps. We only use that because we know the exact evasion/defense of them, but dynamis/limbus/etc mobs are very similar, and in fact lower usually, with job-based exceptions, so you can adjust your gear as needed. But ya, even on Nidhogg, JoL, etc, it's still the exact same - attack blows, keep on all your haste gear and cap accuracy via other slots (cuch, PCC over torque, etc) or food before you begin to take off haste. It's just how the game plays out.

[Ohaigaiz]

but failure i don't want to use turban it's so ugly Q_Q

[Beave]

.dat swap it to o-hat and pretend you're in 2005 =P

[Nightfyre]

.dat swap it to o-hat and pretend you're in 2005 =P

lol

[Aksannyi]

Morrigan + Homam = ugly. Those two just don't quite match.

Fuck yeah I am the fashion police of the relic thread, y'all can bitch over gear choices for stats, I'm gonna call out the ugly.

[Beave]

Morrigan + Homam = ugly. Those two just don't quite match.

Fuck yeah I am the fashion police of the relic thread, y'all can bitch over gear choices for stats, I'm gonna call out the ugly.

There used to be a rdm who posted here with a sig talking about every event is a fasion show...don't remember who it was.

My question to you though is this: morri+homam or blu af2+homam? (looks only, disregard stats) And what head piece too!

[Aksannyi]

Anything too magey-looking like Morrigan or BLU AF just doesn't seem to work with Homam. But BLU AF clashes more than Morrigan.

Head gear requires dat swapping. All of my hats in XI were just flowers in my hair.

[Nevex]

There used to be a rdm who posted here with a sig talking about every event is a fasion show...don't remember who it was.

My question to you though is this: morri+homam or blu af2+homam? (looks only, disregard stats) And what head piece too!

AF2 all the way, best looking body piece in the game imo.

[Therin]

There used to be a rdm who posted here with a sig talking about every event is a fasion show...don't remember who it was.

Sounds like Suterusu, but he was a Mithra BRD.

[Nightfyre]

AF2 all the way, best looking body piece in the game imo.

QFT. If Mirage Jubbah and another piece clash, change the other piece.

[Eleven19]

Ok, that's fine then. But there are definitely some times where /nin is far and away the ideal subjob. Some various limbus zones have NMs that can literally 1 shot you if 3rd eye goes down, that I vastly prefer /nin for, then a few cop-dynas that just have shitty aoes, etc.

In any case, I agree you can get capped acc with full haste, esp with the +20 on a relic, but if you come to any situation with any weapon, you are better to go meat>pizza before going turban>aces and dusk>10acc gloves, etc. This isn't "bird camp" math. I'm not saying always use pizza by any stretch of the imagination, I'm saying it's pretty ignorant to think the math done here applies only to bird camps. We only use that because we know the exact evasion/defense of them, but dynamis/limbus/etc mobs are very similar, and in fact lower usually, with job-based exceptions, so you can adjust your gear as needed. But ya, even on Nidhogg, JoL, etc, it's still the exact same - attack blows, keep on all your haste gear and cap accuracy via other slots (cuch, PCC over torque, etc) or food before you begin to take off haste. It's just how the game plays out.

I agree completely. I still /nin even for Nyzul because there's too many ifs and third eye is so fucking unreliable. I absolutely refuse to /nin meriting because if I end up biting the dust somehow, I can gain the XP back in 5-10 minutes anyway. Should really be a catch phrase now for FFXI, but Shit is Situational, as usual.

Now that pizza is out, there's really no reason to keep a low accuracy gear setup anymore. I used to keep Ace's helm with me just in case on SAM even after Amano, but there were very few places I would pop it on. Maybe vs Dynamis-Xarc NM's. Even then I would never switch out haste gloves for full-out non-haste gloves, that's retarded.

There's no reason to be adjusting all your equipment for a high evasion mob. Depending on the event, curry if you know you're going to be capped, pizza if you think you won't. That's how I always looked at it.

[Tsuko_Asura]

I'm not gonna disagree that there is a place for /nin but i have seen bravura wars who use /nin 95% of the time like /sam doesn't exist. Then again this are the same wars who don't seem to understand what a 6 hit is either, if u didn't see it my point was directed at the fact that with some relics you can tp in full haste while a keeping a fairly high amount of accuracy. Idk how it is in ur server but in mine we have a large amount of /wrist relic holders. Amano sams using usu feet, bandos and ethereal earring for gekko to mention 1 out of the many.

What the fuck is an Apocalypse useful for other than tanking things that a Bravura or Amano can't?

Use it for its only niche or level a real job.

[Benevolentone]

What the fuck is an Apocalypse useful for other than tanking things that a Bravura or Amano can't?

Use it for its only niche or level a real job.

I may be going out on a limb here but maybe people use it/like it for... fun? I know that is a crazy ass idea but maybe they just like DRK and shit?

[Kipling]

The point, she has been missed.

[Tsuko_Asura]

The point, she has been missed.

bad dum tishh

[Baelorn]

I may be going out on a limb here but maybe people use it/like it for... fun? I know that is a crazy ass idea but maybe they just like DRK and shit?

FFXI isn't about fun anymore. It's about operating at 99% efficiency at all times.

[Tsuko_Asura]

FFXI isn't about fun anymore. It's about operating at 99% efficiency at all times.

I was talking to the twat and that twat alone. If you want to play something for the fun of it, do so, but don't argue that its stupid to sub ninja because its less efficient(even though its not) when you're not playing the most efficient job to begin with.

[Benevolentone]

I was talking to the twat and that twat alone. If you want to play something for the fun of it, do so, but don't argue that its stupid to sub ninja because its less efficient(even though its not) when you're not playing the most efficient job to begin with.

Just saying, but, there is nothing wrong with being more efficient while not being the most efficient job in the game. Just cus BST isn't the most efficient DD doesn't mean you can't argue that /pup s an inefficient sub.

[BerenTebogo]

I'm not gonna disagree that there is a place for /nin but i have seen bravura wars who use /nin 95% of the time like /sam doesn't exist. Then again this are the same wars who don't seem to understand what a 6 hit is either, if u didn't see it my point was directed at the fact that with some relics you can tp in full haste while a keeping a fairly high amount of accuracy. Idk how it is in ur server but in mine we have a large amount of /wrist relic holders. Amano sams using usu feet, bandos and ethereal earring for gekko to mention 1 out of the many.

If I don't know the people I'm going to be doing things with and/or trust them I will /NIN all the time every time.

There are very few situations in game anymore where I'm able to play at my max /SAM as WAR without knowing full well that I'm throwing away EXP. Blame the healers, blame the situation, whatever, I can ride aftermath 100% of the time in some events and still die 5+ times over 2 hours due to shitty/afk/slow support.

I can't remember the last time I joined even a BRD + COR + RDM pickup bird party where I actually was able to use hasso, hell, I can't remember the last time I put my flag up, took a party, and didn't do double the next closest pick-up DD while using seigan fulltime and still almost dying.

Normal players are bad. Very bad. Most of them should be shot. At the very least they should have their hands cut off so they can no longer ruin my in-game experience with their shittery. That being said...for every healer I get with a brain who can keep up, or every party I get with DDs who know what a 6-hit is and don't let me tank 99.9% of the time, I get 30 parties where I want to hang myself staring at Third Eye: 00:15 while my HP drops slowly into red for 2 hours.

I'll be blunt, as much as I don't like it...SJ SAM in xarc or tav? Dead...dead...dead some more...oh look dead again. SJ SAM in dyn-qufim or bubu? Oh man body slam..I sure hope someone stuns that...dead. Meriting on things that aren't birds with a pick-up party? "Oh hey can you silence that mamool? It's casting thunder IV on me and everyone is stun..." dead.

Not to mention /SAM is jack-fucking shit worthless for low-man shit or most tanking situations. Salvage, Einherjar, city / valk / beacu dynamis, birds, nyzul, events with linkshells where mages don't jack off instead of cure - all great places for /SAM. And to a point my perspective is very jaded because Fenrir is the backwater of all backwater. I have to accept that a good experience with a mage is only being in red HP for 30~ seconds because hey, at least it wasn't 60 seconds right?!

/SAM is my favorite SJ by far. I love to use it even at times when I know I'm going to get the handle of my Bravura shoved deep inside my ass. What it all comes down to though is what it has always come down to on anything of any consequence: your melee are only as good as your support allows them to be.

Oh? Did I mention our HQ berk Bravura WARs who use pole grip /NIN? Dude...I fucking LOVE 8-hit Bravura, don't you?!

Edit: Forgot we have Bravura WARs who use Headsman's ring too. I don't know how I forgot that, but I did. Also another LS funded Bravura up and coming for someone who thinks H. ring is the best ring for WAR to use period, along with askar hands of course.