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  1. #7621
    The Syrup To Waffles's Waffle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jornna View Post
    So, the fact that they come a job that the LS needs for an event, has no baring on what gear they should be allowed to lot?

    Seems then you are just going to get people who refuse to come jobs needed by the linkshell, to come the jobs they like, in order to get gear for said job.
    Why would you level a job you don't like?

  2. #7622
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    Most people level jobs they don't like for endgame linkshells to get gear for their other jobs. I know many people who would have never leveled blm or brd but did so to get into an HNMLS to get gear for their war,drk, sam,and other random DD jobs no one cares about.

  3. #7623
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    Did I mention that bleeding hearts shouldn't be in charge of equipment distribution? Because bleeding hearts shouldn't be in charge of equipment distribution.

  4. #7624
    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!
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    I didnt say they dont like BRD, Im saying that they like DRK more than BRD but they come BRD because its what the linkshell needs.

  5. #7625
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuko_Asura View Post
    Did I mention that bleeding hearts shouldn't be in charge of equipment distribution? Because bleeding hearts shouldn't be in charge of equipment distribution.
    Why would someone stay in a linkshell if they cant gear for the job they like most?

  6. #7626
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuko_Asura View Post
    Rotate bards?
    That is what I am in favor of, yes. But the core of my argument still exists, which is telling people to come on certain jobs and only letting them lot for those jobs sucks majorly.

    Jobs that don't see the light of day shouldn't be a priority, simple as that.

    By your logic, the guy who absolutely adores his BST is just as entitled to an E.Body as the guy who shows up on his DRK to tank 100% of the linkshell's events. Did I get that about right?
    Given that I'm also in favor of job modifiers for points and some lotting restrictions, not exactly. But I like the overall idea of "you earn your points, how you spend them is up to you", even if the devil is in the details. If you don't see it that way then we'll just have to agree to disagree.

  7. #7627
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jornna View Post
    Why would someone stay in a linkshell if they cant gear for the job they like most?
    This. Because lets face it, very few linkshells want DD only people at this point in the game. I'm sure many others can attest to leveling jobs to qualify for a decent HNMLS so they can gear their favorite jobs.

  8. #7628
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    lol @ only lotting jobs you play at LS events LOLOLOLOL

    what kind of fairy dream world do you retarded fucks live in? everyone is going to lootwhore whatever they can for whatever job they have. and yes some people enjoy gearing out one job more than another even if they don't play it at LS events, i find it hilarious that you don't see that.

  9. #7629
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    Ya' know, because I said those people shouldn't get anything.

    Prioritizing =/= Neglecting

  10. #7630
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    Saddest part about all of this is the fact that this topic was beat to motherfucking death before most of you had even heard of BG or touched a Nid. Christ on a bike.

    Edit: Myself included.

  11. #7631
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    Did we really just resort to the, "But I've been here longer than you" card?

    As long as we're talking time lines, I haven't heard that idiocy in years.

  12. #7632
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuko_Asura View Post
    Did we really just resort to the, "But I've been here longer than you" card?

    As long as we're talking time lines, I haven't heard that idiocy in years.
    See that thar part where I said "Myself included?"

    Yeah.

  13. #7633
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    Eh, I agree that this has been talked about many times before, but this stupid tangent only began because Therin's idiot brigade insists on defending the retard with the relic.

  14. #7634
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jornna View Post
    Why do you have to actively play your E body job for the LS to get one? @.@

    Unless im missing your point.
    You shouldn't have to, when I was in Cabelas they were giving Ebodys out to people who were main job paladin, and they were giving them out to WARs without Haidate and DRKs that used some piece of shit scythe.

    and they are far from being capped. so..

  15. #7635
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    Your server's endgame situation is a huge factor in whether or not you can get an E body before a relic.

  16. #7636
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    Odin doesn't care what the Aery looks like on your server

  17. #7637
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuko_Asura View Post
    Odin doesn't care what the Aery looks like on your server
    No but he does care about how many Einherjar linkshells there are and whether they're recruiting or not

  18. #7638
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    with 24 people in any win chamber with any combination of mobs should win 99% of the time. 18 can win a larbe majority of the time. idk why an ls needs to be 50 people large to clear ein

  19. #7639
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11 View Post
    with 24 people in any win chamber with any combination of mobs should win 99% of the time. 18 can win a larbe majority of the time. idk why an ls needs to be 50 people large to clear ein
    No, no they can't. We're talking about the "average" linkshell, not the best. Yes, your numbers are correct if everyone is a good player but the "average" Einherjar LS cannot clear Tier 3 reliably with 18 people (meaning there are a LOT less Einherjar linkshells out there that can, so the chances of getting into one that can get you an E.Body with less than 30 people are ridiculously low).

  20. #7640
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11 View Post
    with 24 people in any win chamber with any combination of mobs should win 99% of the time. 18 can win a larbe majority of the time. idk why an ls needs to be 50 people large to clear ein
    this, if you know what you're doing you can clear all the tiers you need to get to odin with 18.

    Quote Originally Posted by Therin View Post
    12-16 should be able to get to and kill Odin
    You should be able to do this now, we kill it with 14 regularly cause out of 18-20 that show up to the earlier einherjar tiers a few will always miss a tier.

    There is really no excuse for not having such an old item this late into the game.

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