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  1. #7841
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    Yeah, went 1/28 on the hide >< freakin horrible.

    Quote Originally Posted by nitsuj View Post
    Congrats! If you're bored, you should post your gear sets. I've been tinking with ideas for Nirvana melee builds, would love to see what you're using (regular perp/attack/etc as well, as everyone else is very cookie cutter. Curious if you're doing anything outside the box ^^ )
    As far as gearsets go, I'm not exactly sure what you're referring to. Are you looking for a gearset that lets you get tp on nirvana during typical mob fights? Or are you more wondering about the best way to be a melee summoner? I'll assume you're asking the 2nd question for now and answer that.

    As far as gearsets go, <3 melee smn. I've been a melee summoner since before the days of the craftermath/Negativepositive rants (some being useful, and others not so much >.>)

    So, gearsets:
    Perp/TP building:
    Nirvana (used to use Martial staff, that may still be better for meleeing, not sure yet. Martial at least performed better than Bahamuts against EP/DC mobs)
    Pole Strap
    Smart Grenade
    Walahra Turban
    Chiv Chain
    Brutal Earring
    Aesir Ear Pendant
    Penance or Goliard (depending on whether or not i need more mp or more damage)
    Nashira Gages
    Evoker's Ring
    Rajas Ring
    Aesir Mantle
    Swift Belt
    Hydra Brais
    Evoker's Pigaches +1

    Spirit Taker:
    Phantom Tathlum
    Evoker's Horn +1
    Ajari Bead Necklace
    Errant Houpelande (not sure if the STR reduction is compensated for by the INT and MND boost, but I use it anyway)
    Yigit Gages
    Hale Ring
    Penitent's Rope
    Jet Seraweels
    Marduk's Crackows

    I would go /thf for Sneak Attack of course. Normal spirit takers would be around 500-700, breaking 1k occasionally.


    If I missed the mark with your question, let me know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omnipotent View Post
    Wouldn't blitz ring serve better purpose instead of snipers or rajas?
    http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/showt...+rajas+pld+joy

    This was discussed to death in several different threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omnipotent View Post
    Wouldn't blitz ring serve better purpose instead of snipers or rajas?
    Blitz Ring, letting you miss 1% faster.

  4. #7844
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    nvm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! STOP YELLING AT ME

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakshaka View Post
    Yeah, went 1/28 on the hide >< freakin horrible.



    As far as gearsets go, I'm not exactly sure what you're referring to. Are you looking for a gearset that lets you get tp on nirvana during typical mob fights? Or are you more wondering about the best way to be a melee summoner? I'll assume you're asking the 2nd question for now and answer that.

    As far as gearsets go, <3 melee smn. I've been a melee summoner since before the days of the craftermath/Negativepositive rants (some being useful, and others not so much >.>)

    So, gearsets:
    Perp/TP building:
    Nirvana (used to use Martial staff, that may still be better for meleeing, not sure yet. Martial at least performed better than Bahamuts against EP/DC mobs)
    Pole Strap
    Smart Grenade
    Walahra Turban
    Chiv Chain
    Brutal Earring
    Aesir Ear Pendant
    Penance or Goliard (depending on whether or not i need more mp or more damage)
    Nashira Gages
    Evoker's Ring
    Rajas Ring
    Aesir Mantle
    Swift Belt
    Hydra Brais
    Evoker's Pigaches +1

    Spirit Taker:
    Phantom Tathlum
    Evoker's Horn +1
    Ajari Bead Necklace
    Errant Houpelande (not sure if the STR reduction is compensated for by the INT and MND boost, but I use it anyway)
    Yigit Gages
    Hale Ring
    Penitent's Rope
    Jet Seraweels
    Marduk's Crackows

    I would go /thf for Sneak Attack of course. Normal spirit takers would be around 500-700, breaking 1k occasionally.


    If I missed the mark with your question, let me know
    Looking for anything really... All SMN's (except me, you and a few others heh) pretty much seem to AFB to 75 and wear mix of AF/relic/YYR and marduk if they have it. No one does anything fun, or tries to push the envelope making their SMN "top notch geared".

    As to your set, I would imagine you'll have trouble hitting merit level mobs with that setup, wouldn't you?

    I was playing with this:

    http://www.ffxiah.com/item_sets.php?id=155191

    Should give 88% accuracy on merit level colibri and 95% with aftermath up, eating sushi. I believe it also shaves a hit off.

    (in before "aww look at the cute SMN trying to talk like a big melee" heh)

    EDIT: looks like I forgot hydra brais, so probably add in those and take out Diabolos Earring for Aesir... I'll do that now

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    Dont TP in Chiv chain if you have Nirvana >.>.

    If I'm doing the math right you need 6 stp to get an 8 hit with your staff (assuming /sam), so just use Rajas/Brutal, and use a better acc neck piece.

    ACP body with perp cost -2 and acc would be helpful.

    Everything else is pretty obvious.

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    Good point about the chiv chain. And yes, rose strap would be nice. I haven't done the calculations yet as far as X-hit builds while as /sam and non-/sam, but I'm sure it would help.

    Also, I'm not planning on building up aftermath effects. The TP would be better used on spirit taker to fuel more blood pacts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nitsuj View Post
    If you are meleeing with avatar out then -2 perp body would be better.
    if you are meleeing without avatar out then swap out E feet, E Ring, wouldn't pole grip be better, and swap turban and virtuoso with swift and O hat for 1% for 1 acc ?

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    Why would a smn be meleeing without an avatar out?

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    Because he ran out of MP

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    Hi guys I'm Excelior. I'm sorry I'm late but I was watching the stupidity unfold in this thread and decided I'd make an account to help you guys out.

    Regarding my gear:
    That screenshot was taken of me waiting for KB to pop. I was standing in town gear lulz. Normally I Tp in Hauberk+1+turban+blitz ring. When in aftermath I macro in Ace's helm, Ulthalam's ring, and Aurum feet.

    Why I was drk/nin at KB:
    I'm fairly sure drk tanking is no new concept, I mean if blue gartr is at the forefront of end game you guys should know this correct? I had just got done camping Faf/nid as drk/nin and rather than change jobs I came drk to kite KB.
    I had full PDR, MDR, and Emnity gear sets with me. I know a guy who uses gear macros? Not on this forum.

    Oh and don't go run your mouth about me eanae. I never said 2% haste was gimp. I said that I'm rarely not in aftermath when buffed so gearing full time 2% haste is stupid. I'm at 19% gear when not in aftermath, 16% gear when AM is up. I'm sure you think I'm gimp though since you take gear advice from trash like Armada's LS leadership. I mean your leader melees with ridill main hand and off hand kraken club in einherjar. GTFO son.

    Thanks guys, I normally wouldn't come here to post but I don't like libel.
    Troll on!

    Inb4 isladar is butt hurt and bans this account.

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    no ebody? wtf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exc View Post
    ...I'm sure you think I'm gimp though since you take gear advice from trash like Armada's LS leadership. I mean your leader melees with ridill main hand and off hand kraken club in einherjar. GTFO son. ...
    Wow. Please tell me that's not true. Or tell me it is true. Actually, either one would make my day for different reasons. You're either restoring my faith in humanity or making me feel more in touch with the cosmic comedy that is life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    Wow. Please tell me that's not true. Or tell me it is true. Actually, either one would make my day for different reasons. You're either restoring my faith in humanity or making me feel more in touch with the cosmic comedy that is life.
    Acutally that Ridill/Kclub combo is the only thing that has out parsed me in Einherjar. We parse for payouts during Einherjar with the Ridill/Kclub leader being the bench mark.

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    Am I reading that right, that your payout cut depends on your parse %?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dooom View Post
    Am I reading that right, that your payout cut depends on your parse %?
    Yep. If you outparse Kaces you get 500k, if you are within 1% you get 100k and if you aren't close you get to come BRD next time.

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    does he souleater much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint View Post
    Acutally that Ridill/Kclub combo is the only thing that has out parsed me in Einherjar. We parse for payouts during Einherjar with the Ridill/Kclub leader being the bench mark.
    I must be getting whooshed out of my mind.


    Ridill/kclub.. where are your relics?? wait where are your perdu gax warriors.

    nvm: your DDs must be /nin carry on

    And outparsing an Apoc in Einherjar is not exactly hard, even with the most pimp gear, an Apoc DRK gets smashed everytime.

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    The specific example I'm thinking of was on slimes. IDK why you would use ridil+KC on slimes. Its also beyond my understanding how ridill/kc would be better than war/sam, or jugg/ridill, or maneater/ridill or ridill/joytoy. You just told me in game you don't get madrigals for buffs. He clearly isnt going to be capped accuracy with KC or ridill. Wether or not it actually does good damage is one thing but if there's a better method that he has within his ability then it is gimp. You can't tell me that going from like 80% accuracy -> 95% accuracy would not out DD a ridill/KC. Please don't say he uses sushi, I will just lul.

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    jugg/ridill guys

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