Completed Relic/Mythic weapons list

[Neosutra]

Did with 15 the other day with 2 of those people on adds and finished in 18 minutes.

lolEinherjar.

Oh I had a mod question by the way. Will this thread also be the appropriate place for Empyrean weapon posts?

[Vodou]

Oh I had a mod question by the way. Will this thread also be the appropriate place for Empyrean weapon posts?

Better than the current one entitled "Empyrean Weapons"?

[Neosutra]

Well, the 15 pages in that thread have been filled with speculation and arguing over Primevil Brew, so not entirely sure that's the best place. Not like it matters for a while.

[FailureMidgard]

Out of curiosity, how much do you think Carabosse gems/etc/etc will cost? 'cause I think you could pretty easily get them for ~1m per, putting the price on the last stage at 1/3rd of the more expensive relics. Also, a lot of them seem far less desired than that...and unlike currency, they aren't used across the board for every single relic.

I guess we'll see, but I think Empyreans are still far lower market value than relics, and quite a bit "easier" to obtain (and this isn't even mentioning relic trials). And they are decidedly inferior, without debate. I personally don't see them in the same league as relics.

[DAKPluto]

To be blunt, nobody cares about your Empyrean weapon completions....just saying.

Maybe when the final level 99 weapons are done we will see the need to post them, but as for now, no.

[Vodou]

Out of curiosity, how much do you think Carabosse gems/etc/etc will cost? 'cause I think you could pretty easily get them for ~1m per, putting the price on the last stage at 1/3rd of the more expensive relics. Also, a lot of them seem far less desired than that...and unlike currency, they aren't used across the board for every single relic.

I guess we'll see, but I think Empyreans are still far lower market value than relics, and quite a bit "easier" to obtain (and this isn't even mentioning relic trials). And they are decidedly inferior, without debate. I personally don't see them in the same league as relics.

This is just a brain fart perhaps (as I kill amorphs), but I've seen various drops going for under 100k. I am not saying carabosse will (or is for that matter), but to be more direct, wootz and imperial woots ingots were dirt cheap until people en masse started completing bodies. I expect the prices on drops will not be too high for a while and may even go lower before they go higher.

Hard to say what a 'high' strike price will be as long as the amount of buyers has not peaked.


Keep in mind (as I am sure you do) that in 2 months the next level cap will be raised and there's going to be a new in-flux of drops from mass xping, although its unclear if there will be new areas from the next add-on.

I think your equating to relic costs is very speculative (but oh well, what can we do?). In today's economy, 50M is a lot to toss on a weapon that just might be beaten by a new magian, empyrean or relic/mythic upgrade.

[Terrestrialrage]

Thing is that all of the Empyrean weapons require items from Glavoid/Chloris/Briareus/Carabosse/etc. All of the drops that come from the pre-popped NM, Raskovnik/Balaur/Mictahkdhgkdlsa/etc. are not used for empyrean. Those are the one we are seeing at dirt cheap prices. No ones killed enough of these zone bosses to establish a price on their empyrean weapon items, however I can say that if i saw a Carabosse Gem for anything less than 500k id buy it on the spot.

Edit: Mistake, gems are Ex, but still would buy them from a group selling for that price.

[FailureMidgard]

To be blunt, nobody cares about your Empyrean weapon completions....just saying.

Maybe when the final level 99 weapons are done we will see the need to post them, but as for now, no.

Sorry, I coulda been more blunt!

This is just a brain fart perhaps (as I kill amorphs), but I've seen various drops going for under 100k. I am not saying carabosse will (or is for that matter), but to be more direct, wootz and imperial woots ingots were dirt cheap until people en masse started completing bodies. I expect the prices on drops will not be too high for a while and may even go lower before they go higher.

Hard to say what a 'high' strike price will be as long as the amount of buyers has not peaked.


Keep in mind (as I am sure you do) that in 2 months the next level cap will be raised and there's going to be a new in-flux of drops from mass xping, although its unclear if there will be new areas from the next add-on.

Oh, I realize they go for less, but as I mentioned in my post, it depends a ton which one. Bakka wings are almost impossible to sell. Also, realize the Emp tier drops are Ex, so they aren't bazaarable. In any case, I don't think any sell for 1mil, but my point was even if they did, that's 50mil to complete, as opposed to the ~150mil that relics cost (k, maybe currency has dropped in price it seems, still well over 100mil). Realistically, I dunno if you'd have to pay that.

Thing is that all of the Empyrean weapons require items from Glavoid/Chloris/Briareus/Carabosse/etc. All of the drops that come from the pre-popped NM, Raskovnik/Balaur/Mictahkdhgkdlsa/etc. are not used for empyrean. Those are the one we are seeing at dirt cheap prices. No ones killed enough of these zone bosses to establish a price on their empyrean weapon items, however I can say that if i saw a Carabosse Gem for anything less than 500k id buy it on the spot.

The question is would you pay 2mil if the offer came? If you say no, I don't see how you can even think they are on the same tier. You're implying you'd have to think about 600k? I mean, if someone truly thinks these are on the same level of resources required as relic, you should be jumping for joy at getting it for 1mil, which was my point.

[Vodou]

Thing is that all of the Empyrean weapons require items from Glavoid/Chloris/Briareus/Carabosse/etc. All of the drops that come from the pre-popped NM, Raskovnik/Balaur/Mictahkdhgkdlsa/etc. are not used for empyrean. Those are the one we are seeing at dirt cheap prices. No ones killed enough of these zone bosses to establish a price on their empyrean weapon items, however I can say that if i saw a Carabosse Gem for anything less than 500k id buy it on the spot.

Thanks for correcting my thoughts on that. ^^

That does put a different spin on it of sorts, so yea, 500k (x50) does look like a bargain for a top tier weapon.

[Neosutra]

Well, cost of items aside (which is speculative), Dynamis relics can be done in a month for exceptional LSs (LSs that buy currency in mass, etc). Unless you're buying drops from several different groups that are regularly farming your mob (I dont see many people popping Glavoid or Chloris atm, let alone regularly farming, however I know this will change, and I realize Carabossa is a good deal easier to pop/farm), you wont be getting quick drops for your Empyrean. Most decent LSs arent going to spend every abyssea run farming these mobs for one person even if they could, and at the moment none of them have been reliably shown to be low manned.

So I would say at the moment Empyreans are a bit more challenging (though cheaper) to complete than relics.

That being said, it wasnt supposed to spark an argument, as I was just curious on how people viewed their completion.

[FailureMidgard]

Well, cost of items aside (which is speculative), Dynamis relics can be done in a month for exceptional LSs (LSs that buy currency in mass, etc). Unless you're buying drops from several different groups that are regularly farming your mob (I dont see many people popping Glavoid or Chloris atm, let alone regularly farming, however I know this will change, and I realize Carabossa is a good deal easier to pop/farm), you wont be getting quick drops for your Empyrean. Most decent LSs arent going to spend every abyssea run farming these mobs for one person even if they could, and at the moment none of them have been reliably shown to be low manned.

So I would say at the moment Empyreans are a bit more challenging (though cheaper) to complete than relics.

That being said, it wasnt supposed to spark an argument, as I was just curious on how people viewed their completion.

Don't think it's a super heated argument, just a health debate. Anyway, it seems pretty easy to make an exp party to target pop items in general. I'm pretty sure as long as you have a LS that will dedicate 1 night per week to popping high tier NMs, you can finish one of these by solo(I say solo meaning you're the solo organizer of even /shout parties) or lowmanning all the popsets without even losing time.

Anyway, I disagree with your separation of cheaper and challenging. Acquiring gil was the challenge for a relic, and (almost) everyone has a price. My only point is I think if I went to shells and made offers to buy stuff that'd put it near a relic, they'd laugh and think they were ripping me off, which would be the "non challenging" way to do it, I guess. Then again, getting that much gil can be challenging, especially for an individual.

Anyway, I think if an individual was motivated enough, they could do it. I think a good number of people that are that motivated are the ones that have relics, however.

[CoronA1979]

TAL had previously done Odin w/ 17 + the feather mule, Jex.

It's actually much more controlled, IMO. Mind you that was pre 80, so yah lol

[Crizto]

Fail I sure hope you farm 50 Glavoid pops for me then.

[DAKPluto]

I'll just say this, from a mod perspective. Although I'm not the "authority" on it, I'm just gonna say let's hold off on the new weapons until we've reached level 99 and the final stages, and see then if they warrant an official thread of "hey, check out the completed xyz weapon!"

So for now, please don't bother posting them.

[HarrisBanks]

Harrisbanks - Titan - Mandau

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/8...0726041210.png

[Fievel]

insert joke about incorrect gloves

[Wakabo]

Turkmalloy - Bahamut - Bravura

http://i26.tinypic.com/110xj6v.png

[Hyriu]

lol

[fatty]

lol

that was about what my reaction was

[Byrthnoth]

Harrisbanks - Titan - Mandau

Once again, offhanding a relic removes all its effects. Worse yet, I suspect that his offhand isn't even the THF relic. Why did you post this?