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  1. #8261
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    Grats Masenko !

  2. #8262
    Very Sexy Nerd
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    Masenko still plays? Why would you upgrade gsword

    oh well

  3. #8263
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masenko View Post
    Got this on 7/20... been afraid to post. Please ignore the Iota ring, I left my Ulthalam's in my locker. >.>

    http://home.comcast.net/~masenko/masenko_ragnarok.jpg
    so how worthless is scorge? (i wanna see sum numbers) and congrats.

  4. #8264
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masenko View Post
    Got this on 7/20... been afraid to post. Please ignore the Iota ring, I left my Ulthalam's in my locker. >.>

    http://home.comcast.net/~masenko/masenko_ragnarok.jpg
    Really? Congrats i guess.

  5. #8265
    Myr said I should dodge roll
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    Am I the only one here who wanted to make a Thundercats reference but thought better of it?

  6. #8266
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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
    You were cold as ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masenko View Post
    Got this on 7/20... been afraid to post. Please ignore the Iota ring, I left my Ulthalam's in my locker. >.>

    http://home.comcast.net/~masenko/masenko_ragnarok.jpg
    Don't be scurred. It's still better than Claustrum.


    >.>

    Who cares, you has something others can't has. Grats. Def. missed out on Thundercats reference.

  7. #8267
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    Still working on pumping Scourge damage, varies greatly depending on mob. The thing really shines in melee damage. I stack a ton of dex. I'm convinced the reason people think it sucks so bad is because a bunch of stupid emo elvaan drks got it and it sucked for them, when it's much better for Mithra warrior with a dex/crit hit build. That and it's tough to get 7hit with it. Anyway, I have a parse from Khimaira:

    WS:
    Masenko 6181 25.01 % 18/0 100.00 % 121/522 343.39
    - Scourge 6181 100.00 % 18/0 100.00 % 121/522 343.39

    Player Melee Dmg Melee % Hit/Miss M.Acc % M.Low/Hi M.Avg #Crit C.Low/Hi C.Avg Crit%
    Masenko 18532 74.99 % 226/14 94.17 % 0/242 56.48 69 96/328 140.07 30.53 %

  8. #8268
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masenko View Post
    Still working on pumping Scourge damage, varies greatly depending on mob. The thing really shines in melee damage. I stack a ton of dex. I'm convinced the reason people think it sucks so bad is because a bunch of stupid emo elvaan drks got it and it sucked for them, when it's much better for Mithra warrior with a dex/crit hit build. That and it's tough to get 7hit with it. Anyway, I have a parse from Khimaira:

    WS:
    Masenko 6181 25.01 % 18/0 100.00 % 121/522 343.39
    - Scourge 6181 100.00 % 18/0 100.00 % 121/522 343.39

    Player Melee Dmg Melee % Hit/Miss M.Acc % M.Low/Hi M.Avg #Crit C.Low/Hi C.Avg Crit%
    Masenko 18532 74.99 % 226/14 94.17 % 0/242 56.48 69 96/328 140.07 30.53 %
    i figured thats why u did it. Show em how its done playa! only thing i personally see is that its kinda low on the DMG end. when i saw it was pretty much the same as amano DMG wise. then looked @ 80 brovura i was like o_O.

    Does attack > other stats like some other relics?

  9. #8269
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmarelord View Post
    i figured thats why u did it. Show em how its done playa! only thing i personally see is that its kinda low on the DMG end. when i saw it was pretty much the same as amano DMG wise. then looked @ 80 brovura i was like o_O.

    Does attack > other stats like some other relics?
    Yeah. I tried a mnd/chr build out just to check. It's hard to stack those stats, and Mithra mnd/chr is so terrible it was significantly worse than an atk build. On exp mobs it's usually around 800-1000, and it's not fully upgraded yet. It's a fucking fast weapon.

  10. #8270
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    I've always wanted to see some numbers with rag and someone who can push the weapon to its fullest. I'm sure it will surprise people (for the love of god i'm not saying its in bravura or yoichi's category...)

  11. #8271
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    http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/94075

    Am I missing something?

  12. #8272
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    Sacrificing Haste for DEX doesn't seem like a very cool idea.

  13. #8273
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    Missing out on 5% or so for some increased crit hit rate doesn't seem like a great idea. Vouch Kyte's statement.

  14. #8274
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masenko View Post
    Got this on 7/20... been afraid to post. Please ignore the Iota ring, I left my Ulthalam's in my locker. >.>
    Congrats!!! Glad to see some non-mandauamanoaegisapoc around here.

    Now have fun augmenting it~ (lol)

    Quote Originally Posted by Sho
    Don't be scurred. It's still better than Claustrum.
    ^

  15. #8275
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    Congratulations, Woundering what kinda build shld u be aiming for, is it something like this (Dex/7hit/haste build) (Here something i made up http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/171482)

  16. #8276
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiendishone View Post
    Am I the only one here who wanted to make a Thundercats reference but thought better of it?
    no. this makes me like you even though i have no idea who you are

  17. #8277
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    My spidey sense tells me that stacking critical hit rate produces diminishing returns. You're going to be better off going for a typical Haste/Attack build than a crit build, and you'll probably be best off going for an 8-hit until you can get Goading Belt.

    8-hit:
    Ragnarok/Sword/Fire Bomblet
    Turban/Prudence/Aesir/Brutal
    E.body/Dusk+1/Blitz/Rajas
    Forager's/Velocious/Haidates/Dusk+1

    7-hit: (You'd need to keep the earrings the same during WS)
    Ragnarok/Rose/Fire Bomblet
    Turban/Prudence/Atilla's/Brutal
    E.body/Dusk+1/Blitz/Rajas
    Forager's/Goading/Haidates/Dusk+1

    It's an Amano with a shittier WS, no 6-hit, and lower weapon skill, but it has ~+10% Critical Hit rate. Not really a great trade. Before Goading, you'd have to trade E.body for Aurum or Askar, which would probably make you trade other slots for Acc gear. I'm not sure it's worth it. Either way, you should consider eating meat and demanding buffers more often. Hitting for 0 with a 2H relic is kinda "teh sadness"

  18. #8278
    Myr said I should dodge roll
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    Quote Originally Posted by richardd View Post
    no. this makes me like you even though i have no idea who you are
    I'm the newest member to join Three 6 yo.

  19. #8279
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    My spidey sense tells me that stacking critical hit rate produces diminishing returns. You're going to be better off going for a typical Haste/Attack build than a crit build, and you'll probably be best off going for an 8-hit until you can get Goading Belt.

    8-hit:
    Ragnarok/Sword/Fire Bomblet
    Turban/Prudence/Aesir/Brutal
    E.body/Dusk+1/Blitz/Rajas
    Forager's/Velocious/Haidates/Dusk+1

    7-hit: (You'd need to keep the earrings the same during WS)
    Ragnarok/Rose/Fire Bomblet
    Turban/Prudence/Atilla's/Brutal
    E.body/Dusk+1/Blitz/Rajas
    Forager's/Goading/Haidates/Dusk+1

    It's an Amano with a shittier WS, no 6-hit, and lower weapon skill, but it has ~+10% Critical Hit rate. Not really a great trade. Before Goading, you'd have to trade E.body for Aurum or Askar, which would probably make you trade other slots for Acc gear. I'm not sure it's worth it. Either way, you should consider eating meat and demanding buffers more often. Hitting for 0 with a 2H relic is kinda "teh sadness"
    im confused, why would it hit for 0?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmarelord View Post
    im confused, why would it hit for 0?
    Check his Khim parse. 0 to 2.5x proc 242 means that his max normal pdif was around 1. Needs:
    1) to not fight khim
    2) buffers and meat
    3) attack gear instead of dex

    In that order

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