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  1. #8301
    D. Ring
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat View Post
    15mins v 40hrs
    if Khim dies and you start the trail, you'll have finished before he spawns again but i do agree if he's up kick his ass and hope

  2. #8302
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    Quote Originally Posted by EjinCaitsith View Post
    Yep you're right, it's been argued to death. So toss your Amano and start WoW and get it over with. Or have fun farming 50 Abyssea NM drops for Masamune.
    'cause that's exactly what I said.

  3. #8303
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masenko View Post
    Got this on 7/20... been afraid to post. Please ignore the Iota ring, I left my Ulthalam's in my locker. >.>

    http://home.comcast.net/%7Emasenko/masenko_ragnarok.jpg
    Nothing? From anyone?

  4. #8304
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    Oh my, missed that one lol. Why...?

  5. #8305
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuko_Asura View Post
    Nothing? From anyone?
    There's so much else wrong that he said, but I feel bad for the guy 'cause he spent however much on a Ragnarok, then has to do trials, so I'm being nice.

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    Blitz Ring.

  7. #8307
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    Ragnarok is like Claustrum- its sad when either of them are upgraded, but you can balance it out with the humor of an incredibly well-equipped player being the owner.

    Shitty relic + shitty player = no humor whatsoever

  8. #8308
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuko_Asura View Post
    Ragnarok is like Claustrum- its sad when either of them are upgraded, but you can balance it out with the humor of an incredibly well-equipped player being the owner.

    Shitty relic + shitty player = no humor whatsoever
    Well, feel free to read back to his comments about needing to be a mithra for Ragnarok to be good, because you have more dex and can get a better crit%. Little does he know that actually STR complements the aftermath the best, as the higher your critrate becomes, the less critrate becomes worth relative to other stats. Then again, if your only goal is crit% on the parse, gogo mithra.

  9. #8309
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    Quote Originally Posted by FailureMidgard View Post
    Well, feel free to read back to his comments about needing to be a mithra for Ragnarok to be good, because you have more dex and can get a better crit%. Little does he know that actually STR complements the aftermath the best, as the higher your critrate becomes, the less critrate becomes worth relative to other stats. Then again, if your only goal is crit% on the parse, gogo mithra.
    His FFXIAH TP set was posted for Ragnarok, complete with 18% haste in favor of DEX-enhancing Askar gear.

  10. #8310
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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    His FFXIAH TP set was posted for Ragnarok, complete with 18% haste in favor of DEX-enhancing Askar gear.
    Clearly it's better to have 33crits out of 100 swings than 33crits out of 110 swings in the same time frame. Now you guys are making me feel sorry for the guy too

  11. #8311
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    Quote Originally Posted by EjinCaitsith View Post
    If you don't have access to a 2box or at least friends willing to help you at this stage in the game, idk what to say. =(
    Having friends help me on relic trial felt to me like asking them to help me on skilling guard. There's just some annoying shit I do not ask of friends. One buddy was crazy enough to offer his dual boxed brd for the last 250 or so I needed on slugs to which I replied: "Are you sure? This is boring as hell" yet he came anyway.

  12. #8312
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    Quote Originally Posted by Appie View Post
    Having friends help me on relic trial felt to me like asking them to help me on skilling guard. There's just some annoying shit I do not ask of friends. One buddy was crazy enough to offer his dual boxed brd for the last 250 or so I needed on slugs to which I replied: "Are you sure? This is boring as hell" yet he came anyway.
    That's how I felt too. Had some friends come out now and then when they offered, but I felt bad for em. Though, teaming up with random people/JPs and hoping they understood enough to not steal my killshots was definitely good.
    I also have a mule, but it was more effort than it was worth, and I preferred the slower rate that took less attention.

  13. #8313
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    Quote Originally Posted by Appie View Post
    Having friends help me on relic trial felt to me like asking them to help me on skilling guard. There's just some annoying shit I do not ask of friends. One buddy was crazy enough to offer his dual boxed brd for the last 250 or so I needed on slugs to which I replied: "Are you sure? This is boring as hell" yet he came anyway.
    Rather than have people help me, I let them afk in my party and let them get credit for their normal trials while I went about my killshot marathon.

  14. #8314
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    Failure made me help him. He's so mean.

    Edit: not really but I went and helped when he was doing them and I had nothing to do.

  15. #8315
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    It just seems pretty obvious that all new content SE will release for this game will revolve around ToM, so if you hate it now, you'll reallllllly hate what's coming.

  16. #8316
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    Yeah, really there was so much wrong with what he said that I feel the critical BG community was generally shocked into silence and decided to let it go under the radar. Then he started posting and it really seemed like he was a genuinely nice guy with hopes of being an awesome DD, so people were silenced again. I'll take a swing at it. Masenko, keep in mind that we do this with the hopes of making you the "DD that gets the most out of Ragnarok," not because we bear you personal grudges.



    Apart from the Iota/Ulth comment:
    * He also has no Turban in his inventory.
    * His Rose Strap likely does nothing for his X-hit.
    * He's wearing full Ares (I assumed for SS purposes initially, but now I realize it's WS gear from gorget and waist).
    * I assume that earring is a Bushi, which is probably non-optimal for Scourge (Aesir or Fenrir's/Vampire).
    * Fire Bomblet should be a Bomb Core during WS. Similarly, Cuchu should be Forager's.
    * He hit for 0 on Khim with a D86-89 Relic. To some extent, lolbufferswhar, but he's 80 with a DD relic. If he didn't sacrifice logic for DEX and ate meat, he probably wouldn't do that.
    * If you wouldn't go for a crit build with a normal great sword, you really shouldn't do it with Ragnarok. Furthermore, if you're hitting for 0 then Attack would increase both the damage of your normal hits and crits, so you should be using that.

    Good luck with your relic. I hope it outparses the fire Great Axe when geared properly, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

  17. #8317
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    crop your god damn sig

  18. #8318
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandum View Post
    crop your god damn sig
    Change to white background if it bothers you that much, or just ignore me.

    I wasn't aware it was THAT bad, i sure know it isn't good by any means, so i'm sorry for that.

  19. #8319
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    Quote Originally Posted by EjinCaitsith View Post
    Change to white background if it bothers you that much, or just ignore me.

    I wasn't aware it was THAT bad, i sure know it isn't good by any means, so i'm sorry for that.
    it's about 100x worse than you actually think

  20. #8320
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ohaigaiz View Post
    it's about 100x worse than you actually think
    if he spent more time cropping his sig then doing magian trials we'd have less to talk about.

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