Completed Relic/Mythic weapons list

[IronPandemonium]

I wouldn't be surprised as it stands currently that Fudo decimates Kaiten where it shines, and by extension, pretty much makes Masamune the better weapon since accuracy is far from an issue at this current point in time for the game.

I also wouldn't be surprised though if they ended up giving the Relics something groundbreaking in the coming update(s), or alternatively just knocking the Empyreans down to size.

If the second statement were to never be so otherwise: At least my mannequin will look cool when I complete a [albeit, easier attained] Masamune. >B|

[Eleven19]

You know if there wasn't so much math behind it, these trials would be doing a good job of proving A) Single hit WS's are capped at 75% Acc and B) Monarch Ogreflies gain an accuracy boost when they link. Shit is infuriating.

I think I'm going to try crawler's nest like someone mentioned and see if that's any better. Only thing I don't like about Chasm is having to waste time dodging the god damn scorpion NM to grab the other two that wander that way.

That, and 1% 'killshots' are really fucking lame.

[IronPandemonium]

Rolanberry Fields of the past, directly west of the maw, there's six dragonflies and the zoneline to Vunkerl Inlet of which contains yet another six dragonflies.

Five minute respawn.

Trial two of five, made easy; you'll enjoy the arcana, trust me.

[Eleven19]

Oh, you know I remember that spot from when the expansion came out. Thanks.

What'd you do for Arcana, btw?

[IronPandemonium]

Ro'Maeve, racing against gimps/dingleberries for claims.

Took even longer than the bird trial by a long shot.

Now just to get these remaining 900 crabs out of the way on the off-time of my linkshell.

[Eleven19]

Ro'Maeve, racing against gimps/dingleberries for claims.

Took even longer than the bird trial by a long shot.

>< Was afraid this would be the answer. Sigh.. Ah well. 756 bugs to go.

[Onorgul]

I know you guys don't like the idea of your Amanomurakumo being merely second-best by several long miles (I mean just behind Masamune but well ahead of everything else, not the other way 'round), but surely the QQ is a little premature. Anyhow, it would hardly be the first time. Gungnir hasn't been holding its own very well last I heard and I wouldn't be surprised if a good MAB build could make a Ranger with Armageddon better than one with Annihilator. I suppose it's a matter of perspective, but I'm just happy to see that it's not another Mythic failure, even if it seems a bit of a slap in the face given the ongoing hell that Relic weapons are put through after completion. My own sporadic movements towards Spharai are further and further demotivated by the thought of making literally thousands of kills with Final Heaven.

[Eleven19]

I know you guys don't like the idea of your Amanomurakumo being merely second-best by several long miles (I mean just behind Masamune but well ahead of everything else, not the other way 'round), but surely the QQ is a little premature. Anyhow, it would hardly be the first time. Gungnir hasn't been holding its own very well last I heard and I wouldn't be surprised if a good MAB build could make a Ranger with Armageddon better than one with Annihilator. I suppose it's a matter of perspective, but I'm just happy to see that it's not another Mythic failure, even if it seems a bit of a slap in the face given the ongoing hell that Relic weapons are put through after completion. My own sporadic movements towards Spharai are further and further demotivated by the thought of making literally thousands of kills with Final Heaven.

Maybe I'm just trying to remain optimistic for my own sanity, but I would hope that for so many trial kills that we'll get a little extra buff someplace to compensate for what empyrean weapons are allegedly capable of now. We'll see. Either way, sticking with Amano. No way in hell I'm selling my soul working on another ridiculous weapon.

We can't be sure how they'll end up. It could be exactly the same as they have been; dmg up, acc/att up, and next tier of JA/JT enhancements for some. It could also be addition of other stats, other hidden buffs or something else. No idea, its too early to tell. 3 more level cap patches is a while yet.

[FailureMidgard]

I know you guys don't like the idea of your Amanomurakumo being merely second-best by several long miles (I mean just behind Masamune but well ahead of everything else, not the other way 'round), but surely the QQ is a little premature. Anyhow, it would hardly be the first time. Gungnir hasn't been holding its own very well last I heard and I wouldn't be surprised if a good MAB build could make a Ranger with Armageddon better than one with Annihilator. I suppose it's a matter of perspective, but I'm just happy to see that it's not another Mythic failure, even if it seems a bit of a slap in the face given the ongoing hell that Relic weapons are put through after completion. My own sporadic movements towards Spharai are further and further demotivated by the thought of making literally thousands of kills with Final Heaven.

Not really sure who is QQing, I'm definitely not yet, it's definitely premature to do so. I'm merely pointing out flawed posts trying to claim all sorts of things about Masamune that are no more than baseless assumptions. The only comment I even made personally was that if Masamune is better, the only thing that really upsets me is the fact they led me on with these trials for the past 2 patches and wasted my time for some piddly +basedamage that hardly made a difference only to catapult Masamune past Amano. They could have cut back on the trials a bit or something if it were to be eclipsed by a new weapon that requires literally less than half the work.

[IronPandemonium]

My own sporadic movements towards Spharai are further and further demotivated by the thought of making literally thousands of kills with Final Heaven.

The trials themselves are far from dreadful honestly if you waited so and so long for the weapon itself; I wasn't ever quite sure as to why people made a big fuss about them in the first place.

Spoiler: show

Unless your relic is Excalibur.

[jimbobsonofgod]

The trials themselves are far from dreadful honestly if you waited so and so long for the weapon itself; I wasn't ever quite sure as to why people made a big fuss about them in the first place.

Problem is you time and effort to get a relic + mythic now you gotta do trials to keep your weapon up to date, if you don't keep up your weapon it becomes out classed by someone who puts in a lot less effort across the board to get.
Take Tizona for example.

Acquire Tizona then > Vermin Expiacion x1500 Expiacion killing blow: Aquans x1500 Arcana x1500 Plantoids x2000 LizardsSF x2000
Acquire Magian sword > Leeches x50 Beetles x50 Any monster x50 Aquans x50 Amorphs x75 Ahrimans x125 Plantoids x125 Evil Weapons x150 Undead x300

Since the resulting swords are pretty close (aftermath effect and occ convert damage> MP. The difference is 2 damage and 1 macc in favor of tizona.)
For Tizona to go from 48 damage to 54 damage and +5 macc it requires 2000 mob kills with a WS
For Shamshir to go from 48 damage to 52 damage and +2 macc it requires 300 mobs durning dark day or weather and can work together with anybody to help complete.
Seems a bit unbalanced if you ask me.

[Onorgul]

You'll note that no one was really comparing to Mythic weapons. There's a reason for this.

[jimbobsonofgod]

You'll note that no one was really comparing to Mythic weapons. There's a reason for this.

The model applies for all relics and mythics across the board Baring added effects and aftermath effects, basic weapon stats are too close for comfort for the amount of effort to obtain and upkeep of these weapons

[Nightfyre]

You'll note that no one was really comparing to Mythic weapons. There's a reason for this.

Fewer people have them? Mythics are much closer to their relic counterparts now than they were at 75. I could see a few of them situationally overtaking relics with aggressive play (looking at you, Ryunohige), especially in Abyssea where perma-capped fSTR renders the difference in base damage much less significant. There's also the non-relic jobs such as BLU, and Tizona's not exactly a bad weapon. Don't see what you're getting at here.

[EjinCaitsith]

Minor nitpicking, but Great wasp is an Abyssea mob so was more than likely VT-IT.

Do people actually xp on bees enough to change them to VT-IT? I'd say it was DC-T at best.

Anyways, I don't see it as the Amano owners QQing over Masamune being better, but more so finding out some solid info before taking the plunge into obtaining it. Even though it's easier to obtain than a relic; only a small % of the game's population will ever obatin this or the future 99 version. Those serious enough to actually start Masamune probably already have Amano.

But ya, i agree we're probably jumping the gun hoping for serious testing from the JP. I just thought it would be easy to eyeball the proc rate of the ODD for anyone following him around.

[Odin'sLaw]

Fewer people have them? Mythics are much closer to their relic counterparts now than they were at 75. I could see a few of them situationally overtaking relics with aggressive play (looking at you, Ryunohige), especially in Abyssea where perma-capped fSTR renders the difference in base damage much less significant. There's also the non-relic jobs such as BLU, and Tizona's not exactly a bad weapon. Don't see what you're getting at here.

that it takes 4/5 less kills to make a weapon not that much "worse" then a mythic i believe

[Darkmagi]

Do people actually xp on bees enough to change them to VT-IT? I'd say it was DC-T at best.

Anyways, I don't see it as the Amano owners QQing over Masamune being better, but more so finding out some solid info before taking the plunge into obtaining it. Even though it's easier to obtain than a relic; only a small % of the game's population will ever obatin this or the future 99 version. Those serious enough to actually start Masamune probably already have Amano.

But ya, i agree we're probably jumping the gun hoping for serious testing from the JP. I just thought it would be easy to eyeball the proc rate of the ODD for anyone following him around.

They are normally VT-IT on Phoenix anyways.

[Rocl]

why are blue mages upgrading the m.acc swords and comparing them to tizona

[Maxwell]

Why are people playing blue?

[Odin'sLaw]

Why are people playing blue?

because it looks cool? ; ;