Completed Relic/Mythic weapons list

[Mazmaz]

Hey! Garudenia bought Homam Pants from my group months back when I was still there! Nice JP guy

[Meat]

there was hardly a point to paladin a year ago, is there one now?

[FailureMidgard]

there was hardly a point to paladin a year ago, is there one now?

It's debate-ably the shiniest job in the game for standing around in town. I'm pretty sure that's why it's so popular.

[firefeng]

Tell them.

(But really, I'm guessing any DD/NIN that deals sufficient enough damage to hold hate is now the best tank? Or is it just MNKs?)

[Raen Ryong]

Depending on support you don't even need a dd/nin these days with appropriate atma, depending on mob obviously.

[firefeng]

Yeah, still getting used to mages having infiniMP. Makes adjusting with Souleater use annoying.

[Kidnoftle]

Depending on support you don't even need a dd/nin these days with appropriate atma, depending on mob obviously.

but you do need nin/dd :3

[Mad Friar Avelyn]

11/3/2010 - Quetzal (Lakshmi) - Guttler

Congratulations on finally finishing after two years of hard work!

[Falaras]

NQ Jugpet, gimp.

[Gunitsoldier]

what a waste

[Guitarman]

edit: nvm

[NynJa]

Since the thread I would have posted in was locked, with how pathetically easy Empyrians are, I dont think they really warrant any major recognition lol.

First weapon of its type, good job, get to number crunches, because in a month there will be a shitton more.

[Karbuncle]

Relic + Amemet+1 = Wat?

Aren't Forager's like 200k.

Oh, He's Elvaan

Grats on Guttler =O!

[Jex]

Relic + Amemet+1 = Wat?

Aren't Forager's like 200k.

Oh, He's Elvaan

Grats on Guttler =O!

Fucking Cerb's +1 are cheap as shit...

[fredjanx]

You're picking on 1-2 STR when some of his other gear is WTF?

[Byrthnoth]

Well, it's pretty obviously his WS gear (I hope) and his lack of Hecatomb makes it look like he does most things solo on BST. Overall, I'd say it's a typical Guttler, and no more of a waste than any other Guttler.

[Thorny]

Since the thread I would have posted in was locked, with how pathetically easy Empyrians are, I dont think they really warrant any major recognition lol.

First weapon of its type, good job, get to number crunches, because in a month there will be a shitton more.

Using my personal example: One chloris pop per 2 hours, 3 active characters, that's about 198 man-hours to finish. Ulhuadshi was another 90ish. 298 man-hours. Now, preliminary trials:
21 trash NMs @~90 minutes each : 31.5 hours, solo
6 Shoggoth : 2 hours, 3 people, 6 man-hours
6 Farruca Fly : 90 minutes, 2 people, 3 man-hours
8 Chesma : 3 hours, 2 people, 6 man-hours
This puts the grand total at about 344.5 man-hours to get a level 85 Verethragna from scratch.

Let's look at Mandau, using current prices on my server:
4 * 600k = 2.4m
14 * 1300k = 18.2m
61 * 1200k = 73.2m
100 * 600k = 60m
Subtotal: 153.8m
Refund: 30 * 600k = 18m
Total: 135.8m

135.8 / 298 = 455.7k/h for them to be equal. I set my baseline at 750k/h when I focus on gil things(and can go significantly higher), making Mandau75 a BIGGER time investment than Verethragna85.

To get a level 85 relic, you need to do 1500 weaponskills as well as 7000 ws killshots. This is a large part of it, but the weapons posted here are (mostly) 75. 1500 weaponskills @ 30 seconds per is 750 minutes. 12.5 hours. 7000 killshots at 90 seconds per is 10,500 minutes.. this is the meat of the trial. 187.5 hours to finish the lv85 section, though it's very easily automated using even the crappier bots in conjunction with spellcast.

Say you make 750k/h(still can do better than this), you're looking at 181 hours to finish the gil section and 187.5 to finish the trials.. 368.5 hours total. This puts a level 85 mandau at roughly 6.9% more time spent than a level 85 verethragna, boo-fucking-hoo. Most of the relics in this thread are level 75. The only reason people see empyreans as easier is because they use their linkshells to do the tougher trials.. get your whole linkshell to farm gil for you and see how quickly you finish a relic.

Disclaimer: I know La Theine empyreans are a joke and not at all on the same level as relics or Tahrongi empyreans in terms of effort required, however, it seems a bit out of place to only consider some empyreans worth posting. About 46.5 hours for preliminary trials, 12*3=36 for Carabosse, and 33*2=66 for Cirein puts Masamune at roughly 145.5 man-hours or a bit below half of either of the aforementioned weapons. Briareus/Sobek empyreans are pretty easy as well, placing in at around 180-190 man-hours. Unless you're going to distinguish between the types, trying to cockblock pieces from being 'worthy' is kind of fruitless. To be honest, let everyone brag about their weapons, even if La Theine are easy.

[Karbuncle]

You're picking on 1-2 STR when some of his other gear is WTF?

Was basing my assumption on that being some sort of Rampage (DEX) WS build but, yah =.=

I feel the more obvious, cheaper upgrades should be pointed out first, cause there's no excuse for those.

[Yugl]

I'm not a big relic person, but isn't the Relic v Emp analysis ignoring the Attestation or w/e BS that people keep bitching about? And the fact that Dynamis, unless you stand outside until it drops, places a three day restriction on entrance? In addition, it might be the case that your LS wants to do Tav instead of Xarc/Beau?

[Thorny]

Add 10m for attestation and 5m for fragment if your linkshell NEVER does beaucedine/xarcabard. Otherwise, they're a 10 minute opportunity cost x12 or whatever, nothing major either way. If you're in a linkshell that sells attestations most of the popular ones will end up dropping while trying for others anyway though.. axe/polearm/staff are on the same NM and the others are all in groups of 3-4, so in the process of selling attestations you'll get yours at no cost to linkshell(unless you have massive amounts of buyers enqueued or someone else upgrading.. but then it goes for them). Easiest analysis is to add 10m for attestation and 2 man-hours for fragment though, very few shells are truly capped on shadow gear which means they'll do some amount of xarcabard.