Completed Relic/Mythic weapons list

[Fievel]

Why would it be worth it 6 months-1 year ago, and all of a sudden not? I dont believe something happened to all of a sudden make it worthless.

Nobody does salvage anymore, alexanderite is extremely rare and goes for 5k~6k if not more, and thats if you can even find it.

It's not worth that. It was hardly worth it for 3k/alex, but 6k per? no.

[jimbobsonofgod]

my question is who is doing where you actually need an aoe status removal ?
6man or less or bust i'd say

[Jeryhn]

Sadly even as a mythic holder i cant even think of 1 mythic worth getting anymore.

Nirvana is still the best a SMN can wear... if you can keep it updated with trials.
Yagrush is still handy too.

Otherwise, yeah.

[Fiendishone]

Sadly even as a mythic holder i cant even think of 1 mythic worth getting anymore.

*Ahem*

[ronin sparthos]

Death Penalty and Kekonken still put in work.

I think I would have killed myself somewhere between the thousands of kills needed to upgrade the weapons from 75 to 85 but yeah... they put in work.

[jimbobsonofgod]

-I cant see nirvana being worth the effort, yeah its still the "best" staff for smn, it'd say its like G horn for bard, just saves you the inventory space, for the amount of work it takes to upkeep nirvana you could do the up keep on 5-7 staves without having to go through the hassle of doing a mythic in the first place. and with atma -perp much of a problem anymore anyways.

-I am no mathest So I don't know how much better QD is on DP vs Mab Magian trial vs Armageddon , but Armageddon is a way better damage gun has a better WS and is good for 2 jobs and its a La Theine Empyrean and according this thread shouldn't even count as an accomplishment. On the flip side MAB gun takes about an hour start to finish.

Which I guess puts us at Pup, and possible Dnc? Any dnc out there still feel their mythic is worth it in the end?

*Ahem*

So worth it, That it's still level 80 ?

[Plow]

-I cant see nirvana being worth the effort, yeah its still the "best" staff for smn, it'd say its like G horn for bard, just saves you the inventory space, for the amount of work it takes to upkeep nirvana you could do the up keep on 5-7 staves without having to go through the hassle of doing a mythic in the first place. and with atma -perp much of a problem anymore anyways

Nirvana has 3x the MAB of the next best option, it's still absolutely beast.

Even if you don't do a single trial, it's still twice as good as the next best.

[Nightfyre]

Which I guess puts us at Pup, and possible Dnc? Any dnc out there still feel their mythic is worth it in the end?

Step accuracy isn't an issue even without it, so that can pretty much be ignored. Don't know what Augments Steps III does... Aside from that, the delay sucks ass, Twashtar has higher base damage (and a far better delay), and the aftermath may as well not exist. Unless Augments Steps III is something really amazing, I don't feel it's worthwhile.

Not sure how KKK specs out these days, though I'd be surprised if Verethragna lost to it when meleeing. Suppresses Overload is still nice for BLM puppet I guess, but pet: MAB claws exist as well.

[Mercilessturtle]

Not sure how KKK specs out these days, though I'd be surprised if Verethragna lost to it when meleeing. Suppresses Overload is still nice for BLM puppet I guess, but pet: MAB claws exist as well.

You can use both, you're usually not engaging if you're automaton nuking so swapping knuckles doesn't matter. KKK should hold up pretty well for melee, same base damage and pup already has a 6 hit crit WS so smite isn't such a big deal. Basically 10 str and the aftermath vs -2 delay, some unknown -delay from enhances martial arts, and a different aftermath. Did they ever change the h2h mythics so the aftermath works on both fists?

[Byrthnoth]

Augments Steps 3 likely returns 5 finishing moves per step. This would let you (theoretically) use Flourishes other than Reverse... and if they ever give us another worthwhile Flourish I'm sure Terpsi will have a use. <_< Climactic is our best second-option right now (Building is also in Flourishes 2), but in Abyssea (land of the 75% crit rate), the value of forcing six critical hits is fairly minimal, and likely isn't worth the extra 4 seconds delay you'd spend doing Step -> Flourish. Iirc, you can stack Climactic with Crit WSs, right? Then you could use it to force a +10% damage Evisceration every once in a while (via AF3+1/2 hat). Also, AM3 only applies to the main hand (asked a Yagrush user, Flesheater), which kills a lot of the earlier allure of the weapon for me.

Twashtar is a better DD weapon, likely, but you'd be sacrificing a lot of damage in Abyssea spamming Rudra's Storm over Evisceration to keep AM up (WS can't crit). May not be worth using the aftermath at all, in which case you'd get it purely for its Damage/Delay/10Dex. Is it our best DD option? Yeah, sure. Is it going to double your damage? Naw, not so much.

Edit: called Terpsi Twash.

[shepardG]

^ that.
honestly terp' really only has a use like it originally offered based on the cap increase. Potentialy, SE could allow us additional finishing moves, 8 for example. Keep reverse flourish capped at 5 or something... all theroy and conjecture now/ shrug

Any word on rohngimionidontknowhowtospellit dragoon lance? Fuckin dragoon....how does it work...

[Fiendishone]

So worth it, That it's still level 80 ?

80.2 tyvm. I've got 200ish kills in!

[Jeryhn]

Nirvana has 3x the MAB of the next best option, it's still absolutely beast.

Even if you don't do a single trial, it's still twice as good as the next best.

This.

A Summoner should not be getting and updating a Nirvana because of lolperpetuation costs.

[jimbobsonofgod]

Did they ever change the h2h mythics so the aftermath works on both fists?

Pretty sure they did actually once they added OAT knuckles.
And is there a cap to MAB for avatars?

[nitsuj]

And is there a cap to MAB for avatars?

Don't think there's been enough gear released to really find out until recently, and I don't know anyone with a Nirvana that could test it

[Tsuko_Asura]

Kenkoken is becoming even more beastly with each update, if I'm not totally off-base with my atrocious math.

[Kyte]

Are the values for the extra tiers of "Enhances Martial Arts" confirmed? Or did you just assume III to be a full 3 Martial Arts traits?

[Tsuko_Asura]

KKK85 is at worst D:71 DLY:349, at best D:71 DLY:329

This is of course assuming that anyone capable of putting together a Lv85 mythic weapon can also handle getting some AF3+2

Spharai, while not the most damaging option, is D:81 DLY:366

That's pretty beast for a PUP weapon

Edit: Especially when you trigger aftermath with a pretty badass WS

[Kyte]

I wouldn't be at all surprised if they gave PUP another tier of Martial Arts on the way to 99, either- and I have my doubts as to whether or not they'll give MNK another one (although I suspect they will at 99). It is interesting.

[Tsuko_Asura]

Realistically speaking, PUP probably already got a MA update, we just don't care enough about the job to test it.