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  1. #9021
    HABS SUCK!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint View Post
    Is there even a GKT WAR can use?
    http://www.ffxiah.com/search/item?&j...apon_id=10#adv

  2. #9022
    E. Body
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    Wooden

  3. #9023
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    Wooden Katana/+1, Lotus Katana and Shinai. I'm using Wooden+1, personally, which I got as a gold world pass gift from one of my alts.

    Edit: Beaten by a bit, I suppose.

  4. #9024
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    Meh but at least with nin and war together you can cover all the ws' faster without having to invite a fuck ton more people out. Obviously go w/ the one that procs most if you're solo. Also, shouldn't you be quitted or something, or did you just blatantly lie to me >.>

  5. #9025
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    3890-131qa

  6. #9026
    An exploitable mess of a card game
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuko_Asura View Post
    Merits outside of H2H matter atm? :s
    Hey, I like your style.

  7. #9027
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    Quote Originally Posted by Massimo View Post
    WAR/SAM is still the clear winner for triggering red, with its 11/13. I don't see why you'd wanna use NIN.
    You actually only get 9/13 as War/sam...you need /nin to get both dagger WSes.

  8. #9028
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    Quote Originally Posted by FailureMidgard View Post
    You actually only get 9/13 as War/sam...you need /nin to get both dagger WSes.
    oh snap he dun told u

  9. #9029
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    Um. I might be getting whooshed somewhere, cause I'd personally just bring a friend or a box to cover any missing WS instead of worry about carrying around hachimaki's and sea torques and shit, but /nin gets GK skill too. 119 subbed in fact, which with merits, Bushi, Hachimaki, and Torque is just enough to squeeze out a Jinpu.

    Of course, NIN/WAR gets 11 as well if you carry a Hachimaki, Torque and Staff merits for Sunburst + Pitchfork for Raiden (or can you not sub Raiden?).

  10. #9030
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrooge View Post
    Um. I might be getting whooshed somewhere, cause I'd personally just bring a friend or a box to cover any missing WS instead of worry about carrying around hachimaki's and sea torques and shit, but /nin gets GK skill too. 119 subbed in fact, which with merits, Bushi, Hachimaki, and Torque is just enough to squeeze out a Jinpu.

    Of course, NIN/WAR gets 11 as well if you carry a Hachimaki, Torque and Staff merits for Sunburst + Pitchfork for Raiden (or can you not sub Raiden?).
    I get raiden via sub as Sam/war (and not with other SJs), so I assume nin would as well. As for bringing a friend, eh...the point is lowmanning/multiboxing and not relying on others for every little thing. But sure, once you introduce a 2nd DD, it isn't much of an issue anyway.

  11. #9031
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    Quote Originally Posted by FailureMidgard View Post
    You actually only get 9/13 as War/sam...you need /nin to get both dagger WSes.
    Oh wow, you're right. I've always used a dualboxed THF for that, never noticed. Mah bad.

  12. #9032
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    Quote Originally Posted by Massimo View Post
    WAR/SAM is still the clear winner for triggering red, with its 11/13. I don't see why you'd wanna use NIN.
    Maybe read whole post first?
    I was trioing Carabosse and now im trio Bria so melee I use need to tank those not only trigger red...

  13. #9033
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    Seriously, how the hell do you trio Bri?

    His AoE is nuts and the dude moves hella fast... just wondering as my LS is gathering a pop set to get Stout Arm.

  14. #9034
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malacite View Post
    Seriously, how the hell do you trio Bri?

    His AoE is nuts and the dude moves hella fast... just wondering as my LS is gathering a pop set to get Stout Arm.
    nin rdm brd (presuming he's using this) use's the reduces tp gain ninjutsu with haste + marches up bri wouldn't be getting a billion tp an hour + subtle blow on nin is pretty decent, not saying its "zomg you haxed that bitch" but bri shouldn't give you an ass full if he's not getting a ton of tp

  15. #9035
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malacite View Post
    Seriously, how the hell do you trio Bri?

    His AoE is nuts and the dude moves hella fast... just wondering as my LS is gathering a pop set to get Stout Arm.
    Actually brd is there just to speed up.

    Maybe he is fast but he whiff like shit.

    His 2hr is a joke you can just get hit by first AoE then run from him and make him read 2nd and 3rd w/o anyone in AoE range (in the time he will do 2nd and 3rd st20 will wear off and healer can heal you). After single Collosal Slam Im turning back to him and wait till st20 wears off and till RDM heals me. If you are fast enough you can also run away from his 1st CSlam when he will use 2hr after 1111 Mercurial Strike (simply look at your hp when he do Mercurial Strike and run away if you think he did 1111 dmg to you). He is very easy and take about 4-15 min (4 min with sv marches + fanatic + berserker tonic and 15 min w/o sv marches w/o meds and with 3-4 Meikyo)

    NIN subtle blow is capped for me on this fight I think. 25+5(merit)+5(rajas)+5(usu gloves)=40% and I assume subtle blow+ ninjutsu is at least +10.

  16. #9036
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    Maybe read whole post first?
    I was trioing Carabosse and now im trio Bria so melee I use need to tank those not only trigger red...
    I read
    I wish I could use my WAR to build time, change to NIN for KI farm
    which seems sufficient.

  17. #9037
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuko_Asura View Post
    Merits outside of H2H matter atm? :s
    Hey, According to someone , You can't be considered good at your job unless you got capped 8/8 Merits for their Main weapon, you can't even call it your "main job" cause ~15 Acc/Attack makes such a super-duper difference.

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    briareus is a fucking joke(MNK + RDM is <10min), and tsuko's point was that acc/att mean nothing(h2h merits also give base damage ...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    briareus is a fucking joke(MNK + RDM is <10min), and tsuko's point was that acc/att mean nothing(h2h merits also give base damage ...)
    Yes i got that part, I was making a crack that someone i know believes Combat Skill merits are basically the end-all-be-all of requirements for calling a job your "Main job".

  20. #9040
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    Quote Originally Posted by Massimo View Post
    I read

    which seems sufficient.
    Ok maybe you read but you probably havent fought Grandgousier lowman. If you go trio it as war/sam and pop red !!, wont wipe and wont make ruby light to kill it you are very good player. In other words I want nin for KI not only because he can make 9/13 ws but its overall the best for the situation.

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