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  1. #9261
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    Quote Originally Posted by Worlace View Post
    Pretty sure this person has had this for months or years now?
    I'm confused... ElderGodd = Darkgoddess... So your posting your self in 3rd person?

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    kaiten at 90 is very close or even equal to a 85 masamune

    it may even be on par to 90 one but the question is, which is easier to obtain

    masamune only takes 3 days tops...5-6 days for lvl 90

    im interested to see what they do to relic at lvl 99 :D

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    Wouldn't the real issue be ODD causing Masa to trash Amano in non-ws damage?

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    it can be but fudo really isnt very good in high def mobs so the WS itself is very comparable to a 90 amano

    so it comes down the the melee attack which, like u said, masamune can easily beat amano. However amano also have damage proc, at a lesser % of course. and 90 amano have superior D over 85 masamune.

    not bringing 90 masamune into equation yet because to many people, they are satisfied at lvl 85 and lazy to grind isgebind(that bitch dont drop af+2 items too to lure helps if you need)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Worlace View Post
    Pretty sure this person has had this for months or years now?
    You misunderstand, i was saying cg to uptempo who sent me a tell just before he completed his relic, i was replying to him, and no Jex, i was not trying to talk about myself in the third person. Also i obtained mine on 10/23/10, i just never got around to posting it on BG right after it happened.

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    What the fuck is wrong with your gear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andradi View Post
    Wouldn't the real issue be ODD causing Masa to trash Amano in non-ws damage?
    Fudo/kaiten might be similar on high Def mobs but yes the ODD of emps trash relics and Fudo will outdamage kaiten in high att situations and on XP lvl mobs.

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    Interesting, so Amano can actually keep pace?

    Is it the only one or do any of the others? I'd imagine at least Apocalypse is still very much relevant, especially since they boosted the lv 90 WS.

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    apoc used to be super because of haste cap

    fight now catastrophe is just for draining HP, which is not needed in abyssea due to whm cureV/VI abuse

    it is still a very strong WS tho. Hard to compare with GKT due to the fact that gekko, fudo and kaiten are all close and good WS with awesome STR mods

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElderGodd View Post
    http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/x...S/ACRO/2nd.jpg

    You misunderstand, i was saying cg to uptempo who sent me a tell just before he completed his relic, i was replying to him, and no Jex, i was not trying to talk about myself in the third person. Also i obtained mine on 10/23/10, i just never got around to posting it on BG right after it happened.
    Oh... congrats bro. I miss you DG ;_; come to unicorn
    Blade and payyn say hi and blade says he will give you the 20M he owes you if you come!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Worlace View Post
    Pretty sure this person has had this for months or years now?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jex View Post
    Oh... congrats bro. I miss you DG ;_; come to unicorn
    Blade and payyn say hi and blade says he will give you the 20M he owes you if you come!
    With interest it is now 37,112,750, and 10% of that goes to payyn just because i <3 her!http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/x...S/ACRO/2nd.jpg

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    Why the fuck do you keep reposting the pic? You have a subpar weapon with shit gear, congratulations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthars View Post
    apoc used to be super because of haste cap

    fight now catastrophe is just for draining HP, which is not needed in abyssea due to whm cureV/VI abuse

    it is still a very strong WS tho. Hard to compare with GKT due to the fact that gekko, fudo and kaiten are all close and good WS with awesome STR mods
    Arthars how do you think 90 Apoc would compare to Redemption? I guess it would come down to the odd v been able to tp in 16% haste gear, oh and any idea if at 90 cata out performs quietus? Mines still 85 sadly at the moment so obviously have not seen the apoc boost first hand yet.

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    my apoc is only 3/5 NMs so i cant really tell

    but i believe the empy scythe WS is definately better than catastrophe since its a damage base WS with better mods (str + mnd?)

    catastrophe is just a utility WS(drain HP bring haste up so u can equip other gears during aftermath) and can let you do tanking before abyssea is released.

    Right now, i cant find good use of catastrophe in abyssea yet, We shall see when march and future updated/expansion comes about without involving god modes.

    not just apoc. infact all relic got a hit due to empy being the upper dogs. L90 relics only makes you come closer to empy, maybe on par at most. You cant beat an empy for now.

    well, im talking about the famous empys like katana, h2h, gaxe and sword....i cant vouch for polearm lol. GKT and dagger are prolly the only ones that can come up with good relic vs empy discussion. Others are just flat out "empy wins" except polearm? XD

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    I have a lvl 85 Apoc. Should I be posting it every time I post too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fievel View Post
    Why the fuck do you keep reposting the pic? You have a subpar weapon with shit gear, congratulations.
    Can't you tell it's her signature?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yugl View Post
    Can't you tell it's her signature?
    Made me spill my fuckin coffee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aionls View Post
    Arthars how do you think 90 Apoc would compare to Redemption? I guess it would come down to the odd v been able to tp in 16% haste gear, oh and any idea if at 90 cata out performs quietus? Mines still 85 sadly at the moment so obviously have not seen the apoc boost first hand yet.
    DRK is probably at the bottom of the DD pole atm, as sad as that sounds. Apoc90 gives a boost but the haste benefit is gone, as is the drain. Apoc is easy to 5hit now which should make it still the premier DRK weapon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint View Post
    DRK is probably at the bottom of the DD pole atm, as sad as that sounds. Apoc90 gives a boost but the haste benefit is gone, as is the drain. Apoc is easy to 5hit now which should make it still the premier DRK weapon.
    Actualli, for the first time, I can safely say Liberator should outweigh Apoc for most things!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirschy View Post
    Actualli, for the first time, I can safely say Liberator should outweigh Apoc for most things!
    that is actually true

    i like how SE can turn the tables just like that with an expansion and then turn it again in, who knows, future contents

    im not surprised if nin mnk whm goes to shit again -_-

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