Completed Relic/Mythic weapons list

[catfat]

Its like everyone forgot drk can use rampage

[Kuishen]

Why the fuck do you keep reposting the pic? You have a subpar weapon with shit gear, congratulations.

Made me grin that somebody said it. I'm pretty sure that's a swift belt too.

[Kuishen]

EDIT: Fuckin' internet. >_>

[zard1977]

Its like everyone forgot drk can use rampage

Brb re-buying maneater.

[Andradi]

SE actually put DRK on the augmentable axes you can purchase with resistance notes.

Hurray for concessions!

[Cream Soda]

that is actually true

i like how SE can turn the tables just like that with an expansion and then turn it again in, who knows, future contents

im not surprised if nin mnk whm goes to shit again -_-

Mnk was never shit, lol.

[Arthars]

it was never, but yet idk why people always complain mnk need stuffs way before abyssea XD

[Cream Soda]

You can check all my previous posts over the years. Aside from gettng cock teased w/ retard shit like footwork, I never had any complaints, lol. What you had were gimp mnks, xD

[Appie]

it was never, but yet idk why people always complain mnk need stuffs way before abyssea XD

Only thing I bitched about was SAM getting buffed out the ass while we got crap like footwork. Not that I didn't hold my ground against SAMs, except Kaiten SAMs since Sekkanoki, stupid big spike dmg means I wouldn't counter the entire fight. Or well, until the SAM died, since they aren't good tanks imo, at least not compared to MNK.

I still believe SE held off on MNK content because they had this level cap shit in the pipeline for 1-2 years before abyssea was announced and adding JA's that are useful in 75 cap and then doing a cap raise would make MNK even better than it is now. The JA's we got since 75 cap are very good, but getting higher dmg h2h AND h2h skill ups for more weapon dmg was pretty much the biggest buff I think.

[Malacite]

apoc used to be super because of haste cap

fight now catastrophe is just for draining HP, which is not needed in abyssea due to whm cureV/VI abuse

it is still a very strong WS tho. Hard to compare with GKT due to the fact that gekko, fudo and kaiten are all close and good WS with awesome STR mods

Not to mention the fact that they all chain with each other for some nasty SC abuse. But I thought the gear haste (it is gear right?) from Cata was still useful? I really can't tell what DRK's best scythe is right now since Quietus while good, isn't all it should be and Twilight Scythe is just awesome sauce.

[Arthars]

haste from cata is still useful as you can equip other non haste good gear with aftermath in effect...but it is not really worth the hassle since you get enough bonus anyway from cruor buffs and atma....

twilight scythe is good for physical shield and invincible or physical resistance mobs but the best scythe atm is quietus(i think)

[IronPandemonium]

Not that I didn't hold my ground against SAMs, except Kaiten SAMs since Sekkanoki

an ability used once per longer-than-five-minute fight and used sparsely in anything else meaningful that was ever parsed, think you had something more to worry about lol

and idk why you aren't mentioning polearm samurai if not amano, because if you never even met one of those, then those samurai you were up against where you were quote unquote holding your ground, were trash period

as you can see, i miss the old ffxi =(

[Colenzo]

its ok baby, we got fudo

[IronPandemonium]

thanks for the offer, BUT I'LL HAVE TO PASS

afk leveling war and getting ukko's

[Yeyoking]

DRK is probably at the bottom of the DD pole atm, as sad as that sounds. Apoc90 gives a boost but the haste benefit is gone, as is the drain. Apoc is easy to 5hit now which should make it still the premier DRK weapon.

Its like everyone forgot drk can use rampage

Watching Apoc DRKs who used to think they ruled the game dual wielding is a thing of beauty and will never get old.

[Appie]

an ability used once per longer-than-five-minute fight and used sparsely in anything else meaningful that was ever parsed, think you had something more to worry about lol

Well it was mostly the retarded dmg from self renkei on relic SAM, Sekkanaki just made it easier for them to get a 3 ws self renkei. I was mostly pissed SAM simply got a "mini 2h" on 5min timer, after they already got Seigan, Hasso and the 2hander buff, while monk got what? Footwork? Which at best was a 35tp Asurans for me every 5minutes. No balance.

and idk why you aren't mentioning polearm samurai if not amano, because if you never even met one of those, then those samurai you were up against where you were quote unquote holding your ground, were trash period

Because I think I've been to colibri's like 5 times tops "back in the days". Wouldn't call the SAMs I was up against trash, used Usu, hagun etc. for shit that wasn't weak to piercing. Which is pretty much colibri only? It is like I'm back in 2008 and the most important thing was how fast you could kill a bird with your hard obtained gear, lol. Fucking retarded days imo, glad I capped my merits long before birds became the cool place. Most trash I found was among ridill wars, saw like 2 good ones of those (pre-2h buff of course), most SAMs had their shit together that I knew.

[FailureMidgard]

Well it was mostly the retarded dmg from self renkei on relic SAM, Sekkanaki just made it easier for them to get a 3 ws self renkei. I was mostly pissed SAM simply got a "mini 2h" on 5min timer, after they already got Seigan, Hasso and the 2hander buff, while monk got what? Footwork? Which at best was a 35tp Asurans for me every 5minutes. No balance.


Because I think I've been to colibri's like 5 times tops "back in the days". Wouldn't call the SAMs I was up against trash, used Usu, hagun etc. for shit that wasn't weak to piercing. Which is pretty much colibri only? It is like I'm back in 2007/2008 and the most important thing was how fast you could kill a bird with your hard obtained gear, lol. Fucking retarded days imo, glad I capped my merits long before birds became the cool place. Most trash I found was among ridill wars, saw like 2 good ones of those (pre-2h buff of course), most SAMs had their shit together that I knew.

No, his point was Pole beat out Hagun in high buff situations outside of Piercing bonus (Ein w/ Brd + Cor + /war + food was more than enough). Also, no, the most important thing wasn't how fast you could kill a bird - but outside of the 25% piercing bonus, the math translated exactly to say, how fast you could clear Einherjar. BTW, that was also right about the time that a lot of the worse shells were struggling with Einherjar (Jun 2008 seems to be when the "fix" hit to make it a ton easier), so I don't see why optimizing gear choices/etc around killing waves of trash mobs faster was a bad idea. It also translated directly into Salvage (again, dropping the 25% bonus damage) once you were fully geared. The only reason birds were used for math is because they had a tight level range (81-82) and didn't have different jobs that changed a ton, or TP moves that really skewed data....ya, it could skew a 1v1 competitive parse if one person got tickled more, but it didnt change average numbers really.
Regardless, if you were in a decent shell and ran bard+cor in Ein, and your Sam was using a Hagun, he was doing it wrong. It was Amano>Pole>Hagun, unless you were severely hurting in the pDIF department.

[Appie]

Oh yea, they used it in Salv too, now that you mentioned it, don't think I saw it in Einherjar though on the SAMs I knew. So ya, they were playing trashy there then, well except the Amano SAM then. Or was polearm in Einherjar only better if you had cor besides brd too? Don't remember the shell back then bringing CORs to go with the BRDs. Think we had like 1 COR back then lol, which came WHM mostly.

Also the comment about how fast you could kill a bird was a comment I remember seeing posted alot back in those days here on BG and it stuck with me =)

[FailureMidgard]

Oh yea, they used it in Salv too, now that you mentioned it, don't think I saw it in Einherjar though on the SAMs I knew. So ya, they were playing trashy there then, well except the Amano SAM then. Or was polearm in Einherjar only better if you had cor besides brd too? Don't remember the shell back then bringing CORs to go with the BRDs. Think we had like 1 COR back then lol, which came WHM mostly.

Also the comment about how fast you could kill a bird was a comment I remember seeing posted alot back in those days here on BG and it stuck with me =)

1 brd was always double march...if you rotated bards or had a cor, thats when the bonus attack started coming in. With just food and /war, it was probably too close to matter one way or the other. Really though, if a shell was worried about winning (which I think a lot were back then before the changes and stuff), it seems to me they should have been optimizing their DPS, which meant bringing corsairs (assuming you had solid DD) or rotating bards (which has the same effect on pushing pole past Hagun).
But, if you just had 1 bard anyway w/ double march, it shouldn't have been that big of a deal really.

And I do remember "how fast a bird can die" conversation, but they were almost exclusively used in exp/hour comparing various camps (people claiming MMJ was better than birds without comp) or sometimes for just comparing gil income (it was actually solid gil to merit, then use the IS for ISNM...funded a lot of my Amano through ISNMs).

[Taint]

Watching Apoc DRKs who used to think they ruled the game dual wielding is a thing of beauty and will never get old.

Backline Excal/Aegis PLDs > DW Apoc DRKs

The STP gear used for 5hit has a lot of haste attached to it or doesn't replace a haste slot. (Goading,aces,rose etc) So very little of the cata (if any) actually gets used. If you 6hit with full AF3 then the Cata haste looks a ton better.

Maiden Tabar +1 FTW