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  1. #9841
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    Quote from FFXIAH
    Quote Originally Posted by Kongming
    They said in the dev interview that they would be modifying if not completely revising most relics/mythics, but due to the large amount of testing and balancing needed for this it won't be coming until lv99. The fact that WS and stats outside of DMG remain unchanged seem a good indicator that they have scrapped the heretofore upgrade pattern and are planning something entirely different.
    Posting because in some way it cheered me up and maybe will cheer up someone else XD

  2. #9842
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    Quote from FFXIAH

    Posting because in some way it cheered me up and maybe will cheer up someone else XD

    Yeah and there could be more 95 trials as well with the mini updates.

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    Must be some goddamn good fix if it takes them another 3-6months to implement (and I'm not betting on them releasing 99 cap in dec, but rather march, so 6 months for sure)

  4. #9844
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    Meh, hoping something good will come at 99. Till then: fuck you SE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virg View Post
    Meh, hoping something good will come at 99. Till then: fuck you SE.
    Basically this. We have all been looking forward to a relic boost for so long now, it's ridiculous that we still get nothing. I mean Mythics could OA2-3 times and we got a base DMG increase? On paper, even Empy's got a bigger boost than us if all we got was base DMG. They could have thrown us a bone and at least given us some sort of makeshift increase for the meantime even if it only bridged the gap slightly.

    At this rate by the time they do get a boost then they will have skipped over for so much content that it will be pointless. We'll get to be the best for whatever the 99 endgame content is plus old content where it won't even matter anymore whilst missing out on all the content from 85 > 99 which could end up being like what, 2 years worth of content?

    EDIT: And sorry that comes across so bitter. Just so disappointed with this update. The two main things I was looking forward to was a relic boost and a DRK boost so yeah, a bit peeved about how things have gone...

  6. #9846
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virg View Post
    Meh, hoping something good will come at 99. Till then: fuck you SE.
    This and fuck all the casual scumbags who are rubbing there hands with glee at this news.

  7. #9847
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    Maybe ill have time to play by the time this rolls around

  8. #9848
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    Would like to see testing on 2-3x dmg proc rates, not expecting much but who knows.

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    Kinda depressing that there's no WS boost to relics, but thanks for testing! I'm still super hyped about mythics though

  10. #9850
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    So with the +25% boost in WS damage and the base
    damage, is Amano (95) now clearly the winner over Masa
    (90)? Going to assume no one will be able to get Masa (95)
    for a while….

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    Well.. at least we get a 25% boost to WS damage? Or did I misread? I'm a little disappointed there's not more, but then again this update was pretty underwhelming. I'm hoping 99 Relics will be awesome.

    I am happy for the Mythic owners though, seriously. Have fun with the Liberator, Kirschy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by damet View Post
    So with the +25% boost in WS damage and the base
    damage, is Amano (95) now clearly the winner over Masa
    (90)? Going to assume no one will be able to get Masa (95)
    for a while….

    You already had the 25% boost at 90. 90Masa > 95 Amano still esp with the new JA and how much overage in TP SAM now gets.

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    Think the animated weapons are soloable on a Paladin? Want to upgrade my Excalibur to 95 and I don't really know anyone who plays FFXI anymore so probably would have to solo.

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    How many hits will be enough for hidden effect test? I dont think I have time for more then 1500-2000.

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    Also..does anyone else find it weird we didn't get another acc/attack boost for the 95 relics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Think the animated weapons are soloable on a Paladin? Want to upgrade my Excalibur to 95 and I don't really know anyone who plays FFXI anymore so probably would have to solo.
    It won't be able to kill you but you'll take an hour and a half to kill it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ayn View Post
    Also..does anyone else find it weird we didn't get another acc/attack boost for the 95 relics?

    Not at all. SE is actively trolling relic holders at this point.

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    Ok guys it looks good after 528 hits stay tuned. I will get at least 1500 before saying anything.

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    3x dmg testing on 95Mandau. Tested on THF/DNC with no empyrean armor set bonus.

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    Melee
    73:   26
           75:   25
    +      76:   43
           77:   13
           78:   15
           80:   13
           81:   17
           82:   17
           83:   14
           85:   19
           86:   20
           87:   16
           88:   17
           90:   16
           91:   18
           92:   17
           93:   17
           95:   15
           96:   21
           97:   13
           98:   13
          100:   17
          101:   14
          102:   16
     ^    103:   12
          105:    8
          106:   12
          107:   19
          108:   11
          110:   10
          111:    8
          112:   18
          113:   14
          115:   19
          116:   11
          117:   17
          118:   11
          120:   13
          121:    8
          122:   16
          123:   14
          125:   21
          126:   10
          127:   13
          128:   16
          130:   21
          131:   11
          132:   21
          133:    8
          135:    6
          136:    6
          137:    4
          138:    2
          140:    2
          221:    2
          222:    1
          223:    1
          227:    1
          228:    1
          230:    2
          233:    1
          236:    1
          238:    1
          240:    2
          247:    2
          248:    4
          252:    1
          262:    1
          263:    1
          267:    2
          268:    1
          271:    1
          273:    1
          275:    1
          276:    1
          277:    1
          280:    1
          285:    1
          291:    1
          292:    1
          295:    1
          296:    1
          297:    1
          302:    1
          303:    2
          308:    2
          313:    1
          316:    1
          320:    1
          321:    2
          322:    1
          323:    1
          325:    1
          331:    1
          332:    3
          333:    2
          336:    1
          337:    2
          338:    1
          341:    1
          342:    1
          343:    1
          345:    1
          346:    2
          347:    1
          350:    1
          353:    1
          357:    1
          358:    1
          366:    1
          367:    1
          368:    1
          373:    2
          376:    2
          378:    1
          381:    1
          386:    2
          390:    1
          393:    1
          396:    1
          397:    1
          405:    1
          406:    1
          411:    1
          412:    1
          418:    1
    Melee Crits
    170:    2
          171:    2
          172:    2
          173:    5
          175:    3
          177:    3
          178:    4
          180:    2
          181:    3
          182:    2
          183:    1
          185:    1
    +     186:    6
          187:    1
          190:    4
          191:    3
          192:    1
          193:    2
          195:    2
          196:    2
          197:    1
    +     198:    6
          200:    4
          202:    5
          203:    2
          205:    2
          206:    2
          207:    5
     ^    208:    3
    +     210:    6
          211:    1
          216:    5
          217:    4
    +     218:    6
          220:    5
          221:    3
          222:    4
          223:    2
          225:    4
          227:    3
          228:    1
          230:    4
          231:    2
          232:    1
          233:    2
    +     235:    6
          236:    1
          237:    1
          240:    1
          241:    1
          242:    1
          243:    1
          506:    1
          527:    1
          546:    1
          547:    1
          563:    1
          573:    1
          603:    1
          610:    1
          618:    1
          625:    1
          665:    1
          693:    1
          697:    2


    105 procs out of 1045 attacks so maybe boosted to 10% rate now? If the sample size is still too small I can gather some more data later.

  19. #9859
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    Well that went quicker than expected thanks to finding a group in Dyna who was doing them lol

    I'd be more happy, but the shit is lackluster because SE's testing moves at the pace of a snail.

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    I might be wrong but wasnt relic hidden unable to proc on DA and TA?

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