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    I'd almost swear I remember Bravura WARs telling me about double-proc DAs at 75.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    Nope I meant Spharai was 8% for one fist always resulting in 4% of total attacks. Now its 10% on one fist resulting in 5% of all attacks.
    Mandau got boosted from 8% to 10% it seems and looks like it depends on damage multiplier by how much you got boosted.

    hypothesis for now is:
    Mandau, Spharai, Kikoku, Mjollnir got boosted from 8% to 10%
    Excalibur, Ragnarok, Guttler, Amanomurakumo, Gungnir from 8% to 15%
    Bravura, Apocalypse from 8% to 20%
    Annihilator, Yoichinoyumi in theory should go from 8% to 10% too but SE always like to be unique with ranged attacks.

    Thats kinda sad if the theory is that my proc only goes up 2%

    I guess I need to upgrade my Annihilator to 95 this weekend for testing. Hey if anyone on Carby wants to help send me a message on ffxiah or here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    I'd almost swear I remember Bravura WARs telling me about double-proc DAs at 75.
    Sorry for bugging you with questions lol but I haven't played since 90 update.

    Does AF3+2 from WAR stack with ODD from Bravura and ODD from Ukon to form Quad damage?
    Plus my warrior is only level 49 lol... Ukon just looks like the sexiest weapon in the entire game and I want a level 99 WAR one day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zag View Post
    Sorry for bugging you with questions lol but I haven't played since 90 update.

    Does AF3+2 from WAR stack with ODD from Bravura and ODD from Ukon to form Quad damage?
    Plus my warrior is only level 49 lol... Ukon just looks like the sexiest weapon in the entire game and I want a level 99 WAR one day.
    They should stack. My set bonus from DRG AF3+2 stacks with Gungnir's 2.5x damage and it's a beautiful thing when it does.

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    Here is my test. It took me something like 4hrs lol


    Annihilator

    127/1055 = ~12%

    RNG/SAM no AF3+2 . Only Velocity shot up.

    Spoiler: show

    Ragni
    Range

    134: 2
    135: 1
    137: 5
    138: 1
    139: 1
    140: 1
    142: 2
    143: 1
    145: 1
    148: 1
    149: 3
    150: 1
    151: 2
    153: 3
    154: 2
    155: 1
    156: 5
    157: 3
    158: 1
    159: 1
    160: 2
    161: 1
    163: 1
    164: 1
    165: 1
    166: 6
    167: 3
    169: 3
    170: 3
    171: 1
    172: 5
    173: 4
    174: 3
    175: 3
    176: 5
    177: 7
    178: 6
    179: 9
    180: 4
    181: 7
    182: 8
    183: 1
    184: 9
    185: 4
    186: 8
    187: 11
    188: 14
    189: 12
    190: 7
    191: 8
    192: 16
    193: 9
    194: 15
    195: 8
    196: 21
    197: 15
    + 198: 30
    199: 26
    200: 30
    201: 20
    202: 29
    203: 8
    204: 22
    ^ 205: 17
    206: 20
    207: 27
    208: 15
    209: 23
    210: 12
    211: 21
    212: 10
    213: 15
    214: 14
    215: 14
    216: 12
    217: 15
    218: 12
    219: 21
    220: 14
    221: 10
    222: 6
    223: 13
    224: 5
    225: 9
    226: 5
    227: 5
    228: 3
    229: 7
    230: 6
    231: 3
    232: 3
    234: 1
    235: 1
    236: 2
    237: 2
    240: 1
    261: 2
    306: 3
    388: 1
    406: 1
    430: 1
    435: 1
    456: 1
    461: 2
    468: 1
    484: 1
    489: 1
    508: 1
    509: 1
    510: 1
    527: 2
    529: 1
    541: 2
    542: 1
    551: 1
    553: 1
    555: 1
    557: 4
    562: 1
    563: 1
    566: 1
    569: 2
    581: 1
    582: 1
    583: 1
    584: 2
    587: 2
    589: 1
    590: 3
    591: 2
    592: 1
    594: 1
    595: 1
    596: 1
    598: 1
    600: 1
    602: 1
    603: 1
    604: 2
    611: 1
    612: 2
    613: 2
    615: 2
    616: 3
    617: 1
    619: 1
    620: 2
    621: 3
    623: 1
    624: 1
    625: 1
    626: 1
    628: 1
    629: 1
    631: 1
    632: 2
    633: 1
    635: 1
    638: 1
    644: 1
    646: 1
    647: 1
    650: 1
    651: 1
    653: 1
    656: 2
    658: 1
    662: 1
    663: 3
    664: 2
    676: 1
    678: 1
    682: 1
    706: 1
    708: 1
    717: 1
    Range Crits
    177: 1
    219: 1
    231: 1
    233: 1
    238: 1
    249: 2
    252: 1
    263: 2
    267: 2
    268: 1
    273: 2
    277: 1
    284: 1
    287: 1
    288: 1
    289: 1
    291: 1
    295: 1
    296: 1
    298: 2
    301: 1
    302: 2
    305: 1
    315: 2
    316: 1
    317: 1
    319: 1
    322: 1
    323: 2
    324: 2
    326: 2
    329: 2
    330: 3
    331: 2
    333: 3
    336: 2
    337: 2
    338: 1
    340: 1
    + 343: 8
    344: 3
    345: 3
    347: 2
    349: 1
    350: 3
    351: 2
    ^ 357: 4
    358: 2
    359: 4
    361: 1
    364: 6
    365: 7
    366: 1
    368: 4
    371: 2
    372: 1
    373: 3
    375: 3
    379: 2
    380: 2
    382: 5
    385: 1
    386: 1
    387: 2
    389: 3
    394: 1
    396: 1
    399: 1
    410: 1
    414: 1
    441: 1
    820: 1
    910: 1
    959: 1
    970: 2
    988: 1
    1002: 1
    1015: 1
    1044: 1
    1061: 1
    1078: 1
    1108: 2
    1110: 1
    1124: 1
    1128: 1
    1131: 1
    1141: 1
    1164: 1
    1199: 1

    Ranged Damage
    Player Range Dmg Range % Hit/Miss R.HR % R.Acc % R.Low/Hi R+0.Avg R-0.Avg #Crit C.Low/Hi C-0.Avg Crit%
    Ragni 286427 100,00% 1055/44 96,00% 100,00% 0/717 243,64 243,64 159 0/1199 428,45 15,07%





    EDIT: Idk if there was test for it but its possible to get relic crit on double shot (I just got relic proc on both shots).

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    I'm 100% sure Mandau damage doesn't proc on additional attacks. I also tested the relic proc rate multiple times in the past and came up with 5% dunno where 8% is coming from.

    I'm currently testing x3 damage proc on RDM. I'll post results when I have around 2k attacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragni View Post
    Hi!

    Here is my test. It took me something like 4hrs lol


    Annihilator

    127/1055 = ~12%

    RNG/SAM no AF3+2 . Only Velocity shot up.

    Spoiler: show

    Ragni
    Range

    134: 2
    135: 1
    137: 5
    138: 1
    139: 1
    140: 1
    142: 2
    143: 1
    145: 1
    148: 1
    149: 3
    150: 1
    151: 2
    153: 3
    154: 2
    155: 1
    156: 5
    157: 3
    158: 1
    159: 1
    160: 2
    161: 1
    163: 1
    164: 1
    165: 1
    166: 6
    167: 3
    169: 3
    170: 3
    171: 1
    172: 5
    173: 4
    174: 3
    175: 3
    176: 5
    177: 7
    178: 6
    179: 9
    180: 4
    181: 7
    182: 8
    183: 1
    184: 9
    185: 4
    186: 8
    187: 11
    188: 14
    189: 12
    190: 7
    191: 8
    192: 16
    193: 9
    194: 15
    195: 8
    196: 21
    197: 15
    + 198: 30
    199: 26
    200: 30
    201: 20
    202: 29
    203: 8
    204: 22
    ^ 205: 17
    206: 20
    207: 27
    208: 15
    209: 23
    210: 12
    211: 21
    212: 10
    213: 15
    214: 14
    215: 14
    216: 12
    217: 15
    218: 12
    219: 21
    220: 14
    221: 10
    222: 6
    223: 13
    224: 5
    225: 9
    226: 5
    227: 5
    228: 3
    229: 7
    230: 6
    231: 3
    232: 3
    234: 1
    235: 1
    236: 2
    237: 2
    240: 1
    261: 2
    306: 3
    388: 1
    406: 1
    430: 1
    435: 1
    456: 1
    461: 2
    468: 1
    484: 1
    489: 1
    508: 1
    509: 1
    510: 1
    527: 2
    529: 1
    541: 2
    542: 1
    551: 1
    553: 1
    555: 1
    557: 4
    562: 1
    563: 1
    566: 1
    569: 2
    581: 1
    582: 1
    583: 1
    584: 2
    587: 2
    589: 1
    590: 3
    591: 2
    592: 1
    594: 1
    595: 1
    596: 1
    598: 1
    600: 1
    602: 1
    603: 1
    604: 2
    611: 1
    612: 2
    613: 2
    615: 2
    616: 3
    617: 1
    619: 1
    620: 2
    621: 3
    623: 1
    624: 1
    625: 1
    626: 1
    628: 1
    629: 1
    631: 1
    632: 2
    633: 1
    635: 1
    638: 1
    644: 1
    646: 1
    647: 1
    650: 1
    651: 1
    653: 1
    656: 2
    658: 1
    662: 1
    663: 3
    664: 2
    676: 1
    678: 1
    682: 1
    706: 1
    708: 1
    717: 1
    Range Crits
    177: 1
    219: 1
    231: 1
    233: 1
    238: 1
    249: 2
    252: 1
    263: 2
    267: 2
    268: 1
    273: 2
    277: 1
    284: 1
    287: 1
    288: 1
    289: 1
    291: 1
    295: 1
    296: 1
    298: 2
    301: 1
    302: 2
    305: 1
    315: 2
    316: 1
    317: 1
    319: 1
    322: 1
    323: 2
    324: 2
    326: 2
    329: 2
    330: 3
    331: 2
    333: 3
    336: 2
    337: 2
    338: 1
    340: 1
    + 343: 8
    344: 3
    345: 3
    347: 2
    349: 1
    350: 3
    351: 2
    ^ 357: 4
    358: 2
    359: 4
    361: 1
    364: 6
    365: 7
    366: 1
    368: 4
    371: 2
    372: 1
    373: 3
    375: 3
    379: 2
    380: 2
    382: 5
    385: 1
    386: 1
    387: 2
    389: 3
    394: 1
    396: 1
    399: 1
    410: 1
    414: 1
    441: 1
    820: 1
    910: 1
    959: 1
    970: 2
    988: 1
    1002: 1
    1015: 1
    1044: 1
    1061: 1
    1078: 1
    1108: 2
    1110: 1
    1124: 1
    1128: 1
    1131: 1
    1141: 1
    1164: 1
    1199: 1

    Ranged Damage
    Player Range Dmg Range % Hit/Miss R.HR % R.Acc % R.Low/Hi R+0.Avg R-0.Avg #Crit C.Low/Hi C-0.Avg Crit%
    Ragni 286427 100,00% 1055/44 96,00% 100,00% 0/717 243,64 243,64 159 0/1199 428,45 15,07%





    EDIT: Idk if there was test for it but its possible to get relic crit on double shot (I just got relic proc on both shots).
    thats pretty good to hear. I assumed it would work on double shot since it works with barrage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zag View Post
    Sorry for bugging you with questions lol but I haven't played since 90 update.

    Does AF3+2 from WAR stack with ODD from Bravura and ODD from Ukon to form Quad damage?
    Plus my warrior is only level 49 lol... Ukon just looks like the sexiest weapon in the entire game and I want a level 99 WAR one day.
    It wont be quadruple but triple. They stack but each will double the base damage not double the doubled damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    It wont be quadruple but triple. They stack but each will double the base damage not double the doubled damage.
    Slightly related but I have never seen DRK AF3+2 Set Bonus proc with Apoc 2x damage proc so I assume it cannot.

    Are any relic procs compatiable with AF3+2 set bonus procs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    It wont be quadruple but triple. They stack but each will double the base damage not double the doubled damage.
    I'm pretty sure Twashtar Aftermath + Samba AF3+2 boost is quadrupled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    It wont be quadruple but triple. They stack but each will double the base damage not double the doubled damage.
    Wouldn't ODD proc from DA with ukon proc doing 3.1k then the DA doing 1.6k~ be considered a quadruple?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem View Post
    Slightly related but I have never seen DRK AF3+2 Set Bonus proc with Apoc 2x damage proc so I assume it cannot.

    Are any relic procs compatiable with AF3+2 set bonus procs?
    Was thinking Apoc x2 proc could stack with AF3+2 set proc, I might be wrong tho ;[
    I remember critting Abyssea Misareaux bunnies for 2k here and there while doing Scythe trial back then.

    Edit: le screenshot added.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem View Post
    Slightly related but I have never seen DRK AF3+2 Set Bonus proc with Apoc 2x damage proc so I assume it cannot.

    Are any relic procs compatiable with AF3+2 set bonus procs?
    Quote Originally Posted by Xanthe View Post
    They should stack. My set bonus from DRG AF3+2 stacks with Gungnir's 2.5x damage and it's a beautiful thing when it does.
    .

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    Apoc x2 stacks with AF3+2 set bonus. I've had some crits above 2500.

    http://www.ffxiah.com/screenshots/55133

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    I must have just been incredibly unlucky then. DRK is the job I play the most and I've been looking for a double proc from the day I got 2+ pieces of AF3+2 but have never seen one

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    Results:

    RDM/DNC
    No DW
    No DA gear
    No TA gear
    No Temper (lol)

    322/2430 - 13.25%

    Other things: Relic procs and set bonus do stack. On THF when they do proc together the bonus is huge. I have SSs of ~3.5k (9x damage) non SATA crits in abyssea but I don't think I can post them. I also have some SSs of DRG doing 4x damage with Rhongo ODD + Set bonus.

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    No screenshots, and I don't use DRK much in Abyssea, but seconding what was said: I was doing trials there before and recall it stacking. I just remember seeing some attack in the log that was absurdly high.

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    @Jem It is for sure possible
    http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/7...lusaf3apoc.jpg


    Really sorry for misleading it is in fact x4 damage


    @Silentleroy what you wrote it's actually x3 damage from full sequence. Instead of 1600 you have 4800.

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    What I really want to see is Ragni doing dome 6500 ranged attack crit outside abyssea or barrage on DL for 40-55k. It will happen some day!


    btw looks like 3x damage weapons are closer to 12% not 10. ( Ragni got 12% Insaniac 13%)
    Need to see some Amano, Gungnir, Ragnarok, Excalibur parse to see if it will fall somewhere around 16-17%

    Where is Kirschy with 2-3 rate test on Mythics!!!???

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaniacTHF View Post
    Results:

    RDM/DNC
    No DW
    No DA gear
    No TA gear
    No Temper (lol)

    322/2430 - 13.25% +/- 1.35%

    Other things: Relic procs and set bonus do stack. On THF when they do proc together the bonus is huge. I have SSs of ~3.5k (9x damage) non SATA crits in abyssea but I don't think I can post them. I also have some SSs of DRG doing 4x damage with Rhongo ODD + Set bonus.
    Okay, that's pretty awesome, and is potentially a nod to the fact that 1H weapons end up dual wielded all the time anyway.

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