Completed Relic/Mythic weapons list

[Appie]

How dare he miss that screen shot 5 pages ago and ask a simple question. FUCK

Or how dare he miss it that it was already implied in the context of the test reply on this very page...

Quit defending stupid questions.

[Jem]

Got all 10 scythe's done tonight and I have to say he is a giant dick compared to the others. But Scarlet Delirium is amazing on Animated Weapons at least.

[Indalecia]

He's always been the worst, imo. Shield was next worst for the idiots too stupid to get behind him, but for the most part, rest are cake. Its that damn ignores shadows that makes him so funny/hard.

[Jem]

It wasn't just the ignored shadows bit, he just seemed to hit way harder than the others. Scythe would be tossing out 1200-1500+ Catas every 4 seconds whilst Hammer was doing lulzy stuff like this.

http://chroma-linkshell.co.uk/forum/...ach=1173;image

[RyaWHM]

I just spent a couple min glancing around, to try to prevent people getting gears3/RQT rage but... me no find stuffs... Apparently me bad at searching and/or reading

(for what it's worth, I'm sorry and ashamed lol)

So, on with my question!
What should I expect at 95, vs Mr.Hammer? And, can you just walk up and kill him now, or still need to do stuff to pop him in NewDyna?

Solo killage? Solo+MuleWHM? ...KC DRK killage? >.>
/em waves to 2009.

[Jem]

You kill Satelite Hammers to get his pop (Heavenly Goad) which are near his pop point on this map (they've all moved from old Dyna)

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/File:Dyna...cabard-NMs.gif

Then just pop and kill. Pop point is aggro free and you could probably kill it with just DD + WHM. We had a THF MNK and DRK on it today and it died in like 20 seconds or something.

[Taint]

It wasn't just the ignored shadows bit, he just seemed to hit way harder than the others. Scythe would be tossing out 1200-1500+ Catas every 4 seconds whilst Hammer was doing lulzy stuff like this.

Catas were only hitting that hard if I used LR and he doesn't have regain so you can turn and stop TP if third eye is down. Either way shouldn't be hard for anyone with a clue and a plan.

[Anklespanker]

can anyone point me in the direction of a good brovura tp build? just came back to the game after a long break =D

[RyaWHM]

You kill Satelite Hammers to get his pop (Heavenly Goad) which are near his pop point on this map (they've all moved from old Dyna)

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/File:Dyna...cabard-NMs.gif

Then just pop and kill. Pop point is aggro free and you could probably kill it with just DD + WHM. We had a THF MNK and DRK on it today and it died in like 20 seconds or something.

Thank you sir!!!! :) :)

[Kirschy]

Did some basic testing on Lv95 Liberator. I'll get some better data this weekend:

AM1 - Upgraded to ~25-40 acc on AM1 depending on TP (90s)
AM2 - Upgraded to 40-99 attack on AM2 depending on TP (120s)
AM3 - Occ Attk 2-3 times (180s)

AM3 split appears to be: 40/40/20 (Sample size of 100 attacks)

The Augments Absorb IV didn't gain anything which isn't much of a surprise.


I realize this is completely off tangent, but I feel obligated to make this comment. A year and half ago, Liberator had trials like 2,000 Insurgency Kills on undead for like a +3 DMG boost. This week I had 3 LBC kills that took a combined ~5hrs, net me 250 alexandrite, completed 2 salvage pieces... and I got rewarded with +16 DMG, Boosted AM1/AM2/AM3. (Which includes Occ Att 2-3 times!) It's nice to reflect back and think about how much things have changed~

[dasva]

Why even add a tier in the text if it does nothing... SE you aint fooling no one

[Nightfyre]

Why even add a tier in the text if it does nothing... SE you aint fooling no one

Go back and look at the 90 versions.

40/40/20 isn't bad at all, glad to see you guys got a decent upgrade here.

[Byrthnoth]

40/40/20 with an N of 100 leaves plenty of room for it to be either 30/50/20 or 50/30/20, which would be distributions we're more used to. 40/40/20 may really be what it is though, as it originally (I believe?) went from 40% to 60%. Instead of giving 80% DA for the next AM upgrade, they gave 20% TA?

[Atoreis]

AM3 split appears to be: 40/40/20 (Sample size of 100 attacks)

That pretty much make:
Conqueror top Gaxe or at least equal to Ukonvasara.
Ryunohige are now like miles ahead of 2nd best polearm
Terpsi best support and maybe DD dagger for DNC(?)
Aymur best DD option for BST? 2-3 on pet should be kinda strong

Both h2h are kinda hard to tell.

[Tortalius]

Pup's H2H is its best by far.

[Byrthnoth]

Pup's H2H is its best by far.

Not until someone gets it and actually quantifies the Martial Arts bonus.

Kirschy, does OA2-3 still proc on WS?

[Taint]

Did some basic testing on Lv95 Liberator. I'll get some better data this weekend:

AM1 - Upgraded to ~25-40 acc on AM1 depending on TP (90s)
AM2 - Upgraded to 40-99 attack on AM2 depending on TP (120s)
AM3 - Occ Attk 2-3 times (180s)

AM3 split appears to be: 40/40/20 (Sample size of 100 attacks)

The Augments Absorb IV didn't gain anything which isn't much of a surprise.


I realize this is completely off tangent, but I feel obligated to make this comment. A year and half ago, Liberator had trials like 2,000 Insurgency Kills on undead for like a +3 DMG boost. This week I had 3 LBC kills that took a combined ~5hrs, net me 250 alexandrite, completed 2 salvage pieces... and I got rewarded with +16 DMG, Boosted AM1/AM2/AM3. (Which includes Occ Att 2-3 times!) It's nice to reflect back and think about how much things have changed~

Thanks for the testing!

We were talking about trials last night. It used to be 30ish hours per trial (5 total= 150hours) and that was for super small gains. The current relic trials can be done in 30min to an hour and you get huge gains.

[Limlight]

I know its shocking, almost like the dev team is listening to our bitching!

[Kirschy]

Not until someone gets it and actually quantifies the Martial Arts bonus.

Kirschy, does OA2-3 still proc on WS?

Tested a handful of WS to be sure, but yea it's def procing on WS. Just to note it does proc on the first 300tp WS too.
Test was done as DRK/NIN using just some haste gear and no sTP. I'd use Utsu: Ni before WS so I can get an accurate tp count. Liberator base TP/hit is 14.4, and each additional is 1.0.

Data:
18tp (5hit) [300tp WS to initiate AM3]
18tp (5hit)
17tp (4hit)
17tp (4hit)
17tp (4hit) [300tp WS to initiate AM3]
19tp (6hit) *
18tp (5hit)
19tp (6hit) *

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/242...0924104407.png

[Atoreis]

Tested a handful of WS to be sure, but yea it's def procing on WS. Just to note it does proc on the first 300tp WS too.
Test was done as DRK/NIN using just some haste gear and no sTP. I'd use Utsu: Ni before WS so I can get an accurate tp count. Liberator base TP/hit is 14.4, and each additional is 1.0.

Data:
18tp (5hit) [300tp WS to initiate AM3]
18tp (5hit)
17tp (4hit)
17tp (4hit)
17tp (4hit) [300tp WS to initiate AM3]
19tp (6hit) *
18tp (5hit)
19tp (6hit) *

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/242...0924104407.png

Hmm so it cant proc 2 times on multihit WS like normal triple attack?