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  1. #10181
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    Woo, so po now though;;


  2. #10182
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    Quote Originally Posted by macross View Post
    Woo, so po now though;;

    Gratz im 540/1500 still :/ also WRONG THREAD!

  3. #10183
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    Wouldnt WSing in hagneia and tyrant be better?

    Idk in what ammo you WSing otherwise but I will guess bomb.

    Twilight+tyrant+hagneia is STR+15 AGI+11 INT+15 Acc+36 att+22
    Armadaberk+spiral+bomb is STR+16 INT+5 Acc+24 Att+40 DA+3%
    so
    STR+1 DA+3% Att+18 vs AGI+11 INT+10 Acc+12
    perhaps Armada when LR down and Twilight when LR up?

    That Agi+Int is around 3% increase. DA3% is around 1% increase and 18 att probably make it equal but with stalwart and LR up DRK is sitting on some ridiculous Att (1200-1300 or something). What you think?

    I ran it every which way in the DPS calculator and the Armadaberk option comes out on top.

  4. #10184
    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!
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    Congrats Macross. How much were u buying the plates for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint View Post
    I ran it every which way in the DPS calculator and the Armadaberk option comes out on top.
    Yeah but your calculator assumed att do something yes? Im talking about attack capped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    Yeah but your calculator assumed att do something yes? Im talking about attack capped.

    Everything can be adjusted, even with att capped ebody is coming out on top. A DA proc on Cata does a good bit more damage. I had a couple 2700 Catas last night doing Kaggen, when the majority were in the 1500 range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint View Post
    Everything can be adjusted, even with att capped ebody is coming out on top. A DA proc on Cata does a good bit more damage. I had a couple 2700 Catas last night doing Kaggen, when the majority were in the 1500 range.
    You just said you used calculator then eyeballed Cata numbers.

    3% DA is 3%DA its on avg +0.03 to fTP which is going from 3.03 to 3.06 in this case thats ~1%. 10INT and 11AGI is around 3%. Math is simple in this case really.

    If you advocate 3% Da over 10INT 11AGI then why you not use Valkyrie which I think you have?

    If 3% DA wins over +7 to base dmg then 3%TA should win over 3%DA and +6-7 to base dmg. Valkyrie tyrant hagenaia will also be more attack by like 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    You just said you used calculator then eyeballed Cata numbers.

    3% DA is 3%DA its on avg +0.03 to fTP which is going from 3.03 to 3.06 in this case thats ~1%. 10INT and 11AGI is around 3%. Math is simple in this case really.

    If you advocate 3% Da over 10INT 11AGI then why you not use Valkyrie which I think you have?

    If 3% DA wins over +7 to base dmg then 3%TA should win over 3%DA and +6-7 to base dmg. Valkyrie tyrant hagenaia will also be more attack by like 5.

    I did use the calc. I also Eye balled my numbers last night, two seperate things.

    I just double checked the calc and it was missing INT values for Twilight gear. If att is capped the twilight body/tyrants/hagn is slightly better.
    Edit2: If you had to pick one set Twilight should come ahead given the amount of attack DRK has access to. If attack is uncapped the ebody setup is better but its close.

    I'll play with Valk now.
    Edit: Valk isn't beating either set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vagus View Post
    Congrats Macross. How much were u buying the plates for?
    100k mostly, farmed 100 something, rest were purchased. Prob killed like 70 qilins with LS and JPn pickups and bought what I could as it dropped.

  10. #10190
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    So are there any hidden effects on the 95?

  11. #10191
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    Not that I can tell, haven't had time to do any in depth testing. Hit a 4178 ukko on qilin with my first 95 ukko. Far as I know it's jsut the 2 str and 10% more base dmg.

    Real bonus is being able to upgrade it to 99 probably.

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    So you're liek the best DD in all of FFXI atm

  13. #10193
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint View Post
    Apoc is a top tier weapon at 95. The utility and damage both add a lot to the job. I can safely tank mobs like Qilin even when meds are down and rarely lose hate.

    http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/225765

    That is my current 5hit, used mostly for VW.

    I see that you decided to switch to the set-up I posted on the official forums then? Good to know that the set-up I used won, was expecting you to reply back as I never got the chance to run the numbers myself.

    Sucks that I'll have to go get a Twilight Mail now. I need it for PLD anyway, just been lazy really.

  14. #10194
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    Quote Originally Posted by macross View Post
    100k mostly, farmed 100 something, rest were purchased. Prob killed like 70 qilins with LS and JPn pickups and bought what I could as it dropped.
    I need to buy a lot for 110-130 :/

    7 days of shouting now for 100k and no response :/

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    Found some guy in Town:
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    On Valefor btw.

  16. #10196
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    Theres a JP named Jericho wandering around with a Tizona on Valefor. Prolly not 95 though.

  17. #10197
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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
    You were cold as ice.

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    I hate all people with Tizona... until I finish my own.

    Whenever that is.

    (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

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    There's a guy in my ls with Tizona, I think he has one more trial to go before 95. He constantly complains about it not stacking up to his Almace, but he's been complaining about it for as long as I've know him, so no clue if it's actually bad or if it's just habit.

  19. #10199
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    Breaking tables!

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    Finished bronze last, 11days 10hours just waiting on the goblins =\

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    congrats radec, punch punch!!!! kick!

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