Completed Relic/Mythic weapons list

[DragoonChita]

first, i never claimed i had a competetive drg, i said that was my goal and i also said my gear needed a lot of work. second, this is my running-to-sky-to-finish-gungnir-and-i-don't-want-to-be-nekked-in-my-screenshot set, not my tp or ws set. you'd think i got caught wearing mp rings or a wyvern earring. third, you obviously almost never post here, why did you bother? you're obviously only here to troll occasionally and try to stir up drama. i don't understand why you haven't been banned, these forums would certainly be better off. over 20% of your posts are over this particular screen shot. how sad are you? you tell me to drown myself in the toilet because i don't have gear you approve of? are you like 14 years old, or do you just have a severe case of aspergers? or maybe your just a natural cock juggling thunder cunt. oh and stfu too.

There's no helping you. I gave you three reasons why but you can't comprehend it. I don't care about your gear I care about your lazy shitty attitude which urkes me more than anything. Though keep going with that attitude and enjoy the bottom of the parse.

[Kidnoftle]

Maximizing DPS is pretty fucking important anywhere. Gimp is gimp.

I'd say maximizing DPS in voidwatch is pretty fucking important as well unless you are terrible.

It seems to me, unless I missed something, that 99% of content is dead within 20seconds or, if it isn't, there are multiple players turned around waiting for procs. As far as legion goes, if its non-proc based and just a killing frenzy then I would have to agree that the absolute most dmg possible out of a class is the best possible thing. As it stands though there is absolutely no reason to make those upgrades above nq tier gear, I mean as far as vw goes you're probably going to bring all the procs you can, people will be turned. So, what am I missing? I'm not knocking top tier gear, I would just say that the time spent to get the gear isn't necessarily as worth it as it may have been in older content (A similar concept as the AH geared vs Top tier gear debates that took place a while back).

[Atoreis]

first, i never claimed i had a competetive drg, i said that was my goal and i also said my gear needed a lot of work. second, this is my running-to-sky-to-finish-gungnir-and-i-don't-want-to-be-nekked-in-my-screenshot set, not my tp or ws set. you'd think i got caught wearing mp rings or a wyvern earring. third, you obviously almost never post here, why did you bother? you're obviously only here to troll occasionally and try to stir up drama. i don't understand why you haven't been banned, these forums would certainly be better off. over 20% of your posts are over this particular screen shot. how sad are you? you tell me to drown myself in the toilet because i don't have gear you approve of? are you like 14 years old, or do you just have a severe case of aspergers? or maybe your just a natural cock juggling thunder cunt. oh and stfu too.

I dont think he/she wanted you to drown yourself because you ave a gear that you have but because of how you act and what you do about it. None will be mad that someone made a gungnir and have gimp equip but ppl will be mad because of:
1. lol excuses that you make to justify yourself when you obviously know how stupid they sound unless your IQ is pretty low
2. you being proud of showing public a gimped job with relic which decrease reputation of this job and makes angry ppl who cares
3. obvious troll attempt of yours because you are not new here and you exactly know BG reaction for posting stuff like you posted in this thread

EDIT: I wrote above before this

There's no helping you. I gave you three reasons why but you can't comprehend it. I don't care about your gear I care about your lazy shitty attitude which urkes me more than anything. Though keep going with that attitude and enjoy the bottom of the parse.

was posted but I think I made a good guess of Chita's reaction

[bechyni]

first, i never claimed i had a competetive drg, i said that was my goal and i also said my gear needed a lot of work. second, this is my running-to-sky-to-finish-gungnir-and-i-don't-want-to-be-nekked-in-my-screenshot set, not my tp or ws set. you'd think i got caught wearing mp rings or a wyvern earring. third, you obviously almost never post here, why did you bother? you're obviously only here to troll occasionally and try to stir up drama. i don't understand why you haven't been banned, these forums would certainly be better off. over 20% of your posts are over this particular screen shot. how sad are you? you tell me to drown myself in the toilet because i don't have gear you approve of? are you like 14 years old, or do you just have a severe case of aspergers? or maybe your just a natural cock juggling thunder cunt. oh and stfu too.

Fuck the haters, don't let them tell you how to live your life

[Kipling]

It seems to me, unless I missed something, that 99% of content is dead within 20seconds or, if it isn't, there are multiple players turned around waiting for procs. As far as legion goes, if its non-proc based and just a killing frenzy then I would have to agree that the absolute most dmg possible out of a class is the best possible thing. As it stands though there is absolutely no reason to make those upgrades above nq tier gear, I mean as far as vw goes you're probably going to bring all the procs you can, people will be turned. So, what am I missing? I'm not knocking top tier gear, I would just say that the time spent to get the gear isn't necessarily as worth it as it may have been in older content (A similar concept as the AH geared vs Top tier gear debates that took place a while back).

I don't think anyone is going to argue that DPS gear is not as useful as it once was where fights were drawn out much longer. However, it does matter to a certain extent. People are more concerned with the fact that not trying at all shows a lack of effort, which is the whole problem with the gimp gungnir stuff.

[Klain]

No offense, but mix-and-match level 75 gear with AF3+1 shows a lack of dedication to the job that contrasts sharply with the relic. AF3+2 was incredibly easy to get and (especially for Dragoon) incredibly powerful. It's not "trolls being trolls" it's "someone posted a gimp in the wrong thread."

That gear is levels of atrociousness above anything posted in this thread. Also, it looks like intentional baiting. It would have been easy to post it without showing us the equipment screen and people would have assumed that all the AF3 was +2 and wouldn't have been able to see the accessories. Posting the equipment screen here just looks like "Yeah, I'm gimp. Wanna fite!?"

That's pretty much how I feel. I mean, if it's like someone with like gear that needs work, but shows effort I doubt anyone would say anything (outside of a few jabs or something) because it shows effort. However, going off saying that you "don't care" is bound to get someone to say something, which is why I did myself because it bothers me to see something like that, and it'll obviously bother people that have one that are serious about their job. That goes for anything really. Asking for help on something is easy, and hell you even somehow got suggestions on what to fight out of all this. Though people are free to do as they like and whatnot, they just can't expect to not see some form of disappointment or whatever. Basically, I just hope he takes so effort so he can enjoy it more, it would be great to see.

[Atoreis]

I don't think anyone is going to argue that DPS gear is not as useful as it once was where fights were drawn out much longer. However, it does matter to a certain extent. People are more concerned with the fact that not trying at all shows a lack of effort, which is the whole problem with the gimp gungnir stuff.

Actually fight were longer but whole game was kinda slower and more time consuming and ratio of effort to reward was much lower too. Having that in mind even if DPS improvement now cutting less time from event its still as much or even more worth it than before.

[bechyni]

Yeah back then the game was actually worth while and took some effort

[Arthars]

It seems to me, unless I missed something, that 99% of content is dead within 20seconds or, if it isn't, there are multiple players turned around waiting for procs. As far as legion goes, if its non-proc based and just a killing frenzy then I would have to agree that the absolute most dmg possible out of a class is the best possible thing. As it stands though there is absolutely no reason to make those upgrades above nq tier gear, I mean as far as vw goes you're probably going to bring all the procs you can, people will be turned. So, what am I missing? I'm not knocking top tier gear, I would just say that the time spent to get the gear isn't necessarily as worth it as it may have been in older content (A similar concept as the AH geared vs Top tier gear debates that took place a while back).

havent been reading the flames but looked at this and went "wtf is this shit"

Ig-Alima much?

dont try cos you gotta suck so bad people will kick you out of pt with that attitude

[Atoreis]

havent been reading the flames but looked at this and went "wtf is this shit"

Ig-Alima much?

dont try cos you gotta suck so bad people will kick you out of pt with that attitude

Also to add to this even for much easier VW (like Tier IV and V) its still good to have very heavy DDs. If you have enough you can just proc 2x red stagger and kill most T4-5 staggered from 90% to 0% capping lights from blitz.

[Kidnoftle]

Sigh, I'm not advocating gearing like a fucking tard or taking fucktarded setups. W.e, I made my general point. Havent done many of the higher end VW fights, just saying that omgwtfbbq gear isn't exactly as useful as it used to be.

[bechyni]

Proc, fanatics, proc fanatics. What's hard about ffxi now?

[Kipling]

Proc, fanatics, proc fanatics. What's hard about ffxi now?

I think you'd be surprised how hard it is to get 90% of the player base to proc.

[bechyni]

Lol you would think FFXIdarwinism would of taken care of the retards...seems they have multiplied.

[Kaces]

We should take into account the attention aspect of the current game situation. Business as usual for having the best gear, but you do get a few BG posts for being a gimp.

[Atoreis]

Lol you would think FFXIdarwinism would of taken care of the retards...seems they have multiplied.

Ymm What was hard in ffxi before? Because you sounds like something was?
Only thing that changed is our knowledge of the game and thats why everything is so easy.
Back in 2005 when you was learning stuff you was just noob. If you could go back in time with what you know now it will be as easy as it is now.
If you would put noob in ffxi now he would have a hard time to play this game. He will learn much faster because majority of players are experienced and he would have a lot ppl to teach him stuff (which is different from 2005 when most ppl was learning like you).

Obviously some fights were super hard but it was just super small part of playtime (like AV or PW at 75).
If you want hard mode in ffxi there are still ways to achieve that.
Go lowman stuff like ADL or Arch bosses.
Go solo VW.
Go do some pioneer stuff that none did.
I seriously see no difference. Hard content was always very small and had very poor ratio of effort to reward and was mainly done for satisfaction. Nothing really changed.

[NynJa]

I think you'd be surprised how hard it is to get 90% of the player base to proc.

Thats partially cuz SE let VW be skippable content...so you got tards doing Alima/Rex without having any temps.

[bechyni]

Are you trying to compare the content in the game now to AV/PW?

[Atoreis]

Are you trying to compare the content in the game now to AV/PW?

Not the difficulty ofc but how insignificant it is vs majority of what you doing in game.
There were 3 hard mobs at 75:
Vrtra - semi hard and low rewarding
PW - medium hard and very low rewarding ( body and h2h were ok but nothing special and considering how many ppl that involved most of ppl got nothing but satisfaction and few days of getting exp back lol)
AV - Unkillable beside taking advantage of bugs and exploits. medium rewarding. Items were fine but nothing game breaking. No satisfaction from making a super strategy also because only kills that were done were zergs or cheating.

You want to say me that this game is now super easy compered to 2005 because those 3 mobs existed and were 0.1% part of your endgame?

[bechyni]

If you can't see the game is easier now then it has ever been, not just because of the endgame content but every aspect of the game (except maybe drop rate but that has always been shit) then you are kidding yourself.