Completed Relic/Mythic weapons list

[Byrthnoth]

Before ToAU came out (and my subsequent banning), I had done nearly all of the RotZ and CoP quests (no Relics or Lu Shang's). Return to the Depths quest line. San d'Orian time-traveling knight quest. Mannequin quests. All the SOB quests (obviously). Richarde the Chef. Some of the stories were good. Most of them were retarded and unrewarding. Done all missions.

Guess what! There isn't enough of that content in the game (most of it is non-repeatable) to legitimately claim it is something people should focus on. If you were efficient and used all the transportation options available today, I would be surprised if you couldn't finish 90% of the quests available in a week, and you could probably finish every quest in a month. Excluding relic/mythic/Maat's cap/etc. When I reactivate and finish skilling up/gearing Warrior, I will probably go finish off all the WotG quests whenever there isn't someone shouting for a VWNM I want to do.

[Atoreis]

Before ToAU came out (and my subsequent banning), I had done nearly all of the RotZ and CoP quests (no Relics or Lu Shang's). Return to the Depths quest line. San d'Orian time-traveling knight quest. Mannequin quests. All the SOB quests (obviously). Richarde the Chef. Some of the stories were good. Most of them were retarded and unrewarding. Done all missions.

Guess what! There isn't enough of that content in the game (most of it is non-repeatable) to legitimately claim it is something people should focus on. If you were efficient and used all the transportation options available today, I would be surprised if you couldn't finish 90% of the quests available in a week, and you could probably finish every quest in a month. Excluding relic/mythic/Maat's cap/etc. When I reactivate and finish skilling up/gearing Warrior, I will probably go finish off all the WotG quests whenever there isn't someone shouting for a VWNM I want to do.

You forgot that ppl who focus on those other things not gear are mainly ppl that play 2h every 2nd day not 4-6h a day like we are.

[Arthars]

Gear matters. You can't kill Botulus Rex with magical beams of friendship and hopefulness. You actually need to put a Great Axe through his face, and you need pretty high accuracy and attack to do it.

this is awesome

[Hirronimus]

Gear matters. You can't kill Botulus Rex with magical beams of friendship and hopefulness. You actually need to put a Great Axe through his face, and you need pretty high accuracy and attack to do it.

Prioritizing gear is a personal choice. As you said yourself, there are other things to do in game.

[bechyni]

To a degree though everyone should have some priority on gear and it should be near the top of your list lol

[noodles355]

Greetings!

I asked the development team about the possibility of changing the trial requirements from collecting specific items to straight up kills of the specific notorious monster, since there were quite a lot of comments regarding this topic.

The development team had looked into changing the trial requirements in this way; however, for a variety of reasons they decided it would be better to not make this change. The biggest reason for this decision is that it was explained previously on the forum that the basis for stage 1 enhancements would be item collection and their thinking is that as long as there are people who have already started collecting these items, it would be best not to change the trial.

Also, there is quite a difference in between item collection and kills. For item trials, in an 18 person fight, one person will receive an item. Whereas for a trial requirement involving a specific number of kills, in an 18 person fight, all 18 people would receive the kill credit. While it’s not really as simple as multiplying it 18 times, since the basic thinking would be that the kill count should be greater than the number of items, in the event that we were to change the trial requirements from item collection to kills, there is a high possibility that the number would rise significantly.

Currently since we are only looking into devising the appropriate number of items to collect, I am not going to be able to tell you an estimate of how many kills it would take, but please know that there would most likely be a huge gap between the numbers.

1) We want 18 people slaving over one guy's upgrade
2) We also dont want to do it cus some people have began collecting.

Regarding point 2: boo fucking hoo, serves the retards right for buying before the damn trial was released.

Edit: Maybe this is the wrong topic, maybe it should belong in random fail... in fact no. It surpasses random fail. It needs it's own thread... hell it's own damn forum.

[Atoreis]

1) We want 18 people slaving over one guy's upgrade
2) We also dont want to do it cus some people have began collecting.

Regarding point 2: boo fucking hoo, serves the retards right for buying before the damn trial was released.

Edit: Maybe this is the wrong topic, maybe it should belong in random fail... in fact no. It surpasses random fail. It needs it's own thread... hell it's own damn forum.

Its not fail. They said what items you need and PUT THAT ON LIVE SERVERS and ppl started collecting. ONLY NUMBERS of those items was not finished in trial. end of story.

The simplest solution is not to change the whole trials to kills but ad Umbral to drop from other sources and make ADL drop pouches with Umbral (or make ??? that pops after kill and everyone in ally get 1 Merrow). All those will be as good as kills and wont conflict with ppl that started to gather them.

[Deader2818]

Hardly anyone has started to collect Umbral so it would hardly affect ANYONE. Hell, hardly anyone even kills ADL as it is.

Its just a poor excuse and it is fail, sorry.

And again, just because they were on the live server, doesn't mean they would be for STAGE 1. They can still be used for stage 2 so anyone that actually did collect 1, they wouldnt be stuck with nothing, they could sell it to someone actually going for the afterglow.

[NynJa]

Its not fail. They said what items you need and PUT THAT ON LIVE SERVERS and ppl started collecting. ONLY NUMBERS of those items was not finished in trial. end of story.

ITT: Dedicated relic holders already have their 20 umbral marrow and changing it is unfair to them.

Reality: Maybe one person has actually farmed marrows.

[Jem]

Unless SE add more reasonable ways of acquiring Umbral Marrow then they can go fuck themselves with an aids infested Claustrum.

[Darkmagi]

I would be completely fine if they made it drop off of other arch bosses, or NQ DL. Would make things so much more reasonable.

[Jem]

That would be fine.

Purely off ADL is just ridiculous though. Even if you could chain kill multiple per run (which we all know isn't feasible for the probably 95%+ of players) there's still going to be the problem of massive congestion at every ??? in Xarc.

[Deader2818]

I think we all know SE wouldnt do something like that. In the sense of "balance"

[NynJa]

Is regular DL even a pushover at 99? I remember trying it at 95 with 2 friends after doing some trials in the area, I think we were thf(nyn) blu(flux) blm(solarx) rdm(keh) brd(sumi) brd(tal) whm(vermy) blm(sklar), from what I could see on log. We could have done better if I made more effort to position it properly, etc.

[Darkmagi]

It was a pushover at 90(6manned with dualbox healer and no 2hrs), complete pushover at 99 unless he just says fuck you and does some terrible TP combo.

[Jem]

It probably still has the potential to wipe you but only if you're unlucky. Pretty sure we only had 6-7 people and just plowed through it with Scherzo at 90 or 95 (possibly EA too, was a while back). It takes silly damage and has crap all HP (80k ish?) so a couple of well geared DD's just destroy it as long as they can live like 15-30 seconds.

[Atoreis]

ITT: Dedicated relic holders already have their 20 umbral marrow and changing it is unfair to them.

Reality: Maybe one person has actually farmed marrows.

That would be true if SE would be reasonable to NOT mix mythic relic and empyrean trials in one bucket but You know they will.
They dont want to give anyone bitching about trials (empyrean99 or mythic99 or even some old trials like 30k alex or 1500HMP) arguments that they actually changing something after ppl started collecting. Obviously probably none would even had a problem with relic only being changed to kill but some ppl mostly JP will start to tell that relics were changed so other things can be changed too etc.

[Deader2818]

l.o.l.

I understand you are trying to protect your own interest. But NO ONE has complained at all about the empy 99 trial and hardly anyone with PW since the zeni rate has been changed.

This is not about you and your empy so please stop trying to make it into that. Its about the absurdity of the 99 relic trial.

[NynJa]

thats about as funny as pchan just claiming he farmed 16 mil in dynamis with mdk.

So SE might realize how ludicrous 1500HMP's is and cut it down to say even 500? Does that worry you, that your 95 ukon might not be so prestigious? Didnt you farm your Apoc in neo-dyna? I guess I should chastise you and SE because two of my relics were obtained before neo-dyna and now they're devalued because any scrub can finish a relic in 2 months.

[Atoreis]

l.o.l.

I understand you are trying to protect your own interest. But NO ONE has complained at all about the empy 99 trial and hardly anyone with PW since the zeni rate has been changed.

This is not about you and your empy so please stop trying to make it into that. Its about the absurdity of the 99 relic trial.

I think you really cant understand something.

What I am writing is not how I see it.

Its my understanding how SE see it.

You must be blind if you cant see that SE act like mythic/relic/empyrean trials were tided up. You really think anyone started to gather Marrow? Obviously not. Why then SE wrote that someone started to gather items? Because they justify gathering Rift cinder/dross to not change a relic trial because (once again) they feel like its a group of bounded trials. So stop riding on me and try to understand what im trying to tell you. If you wont understand that silly way of how devs see this you will keep pointing the wrong argument.

You would need to first explain SE that you solely means relic trial. Then try to argument that Relic trial doesnt need to involve same type of trial like mythic and empyrean to be balanced. You would need to learn Japanese first and I think because or culture differences and other type of mind you still wouldnt be understood.