Completed Relic/Mythic weapons list

[NynJa]

Nothing in Camate's post relates to emps...why do you think its about emps? It has nothing to do with emps or riftdross, get over yourself.

[Atoreis]

Nothing in Camate's post relates to emps...why do you think its about emps? It has nothing to do with emps or riftdross, get over yourself.

If you disagree with me fine but for me its obvious why there is no "Umbral Marrow" and "Arch Dynamis Lord" in Camate's post but there is "specyfic notorius monster" and "specyfic items".
You can disagree that ppl that started gathering items mentioned in the post are ppl who started collecting items for mythic and empyrean not relics.
You can disagree with me at everything but please stop fucking saying that Im posting because of some hidden reason.

[Deader2818]

Dude, Honestly, this isn't about you and you already having 60 riftdross for your Ukon. Please stop trying to make it about yourself.

And honestly, if they changed ALL of stage 1 to kills instead of items, tough shit for you for buying items before it went live. They wouldnt be "dead" items as they would still be used for afterglow trials.

Basically, you saying "Please don't change stage 1 relic trials because it might affect me and my empy!" is very short sighted and extremely selfish on your part. If it was changed to kills, its not like it would make it harder for you to finish the trial for your emp.

When you have people like Anewie and Pchan on your side of the argument, maybe you should stop and think about that.

[noodles355]

And honestly, if they changed ALL of stage 1 to kills instead of items, tough shit for you for buying items before it went live.

I'm with this. It's your own damn fault for being too fucking impatient. It's not a valid reason to keep the trial as item collection.

[NynJa]

If you disagree with me fine but for me its obvious why there is no "Umbral Marrow" and "Arch Dynamis Lord" in Camate's post but there is "specyfic notorius monster" and "specyfic items".
You can disagree that ppl that started gathering items mentioned in the post are ppl who started collecting items for mythic and empyrean not relics.
You can disagree with me at everything but please stop fucking saying that Im posting because of some hidden reason.

Why would they change the trial requirement for a trial that clearly isnt broken because of a trial that clearly is broken?

What? LAX (thats an airport in los angeles) isnt functionning properly because of an epic power surge / earthquake / godzilla attack? Better shut down O'Hare (thats an airport in chicago) for repairs.

Thats basically what you're afraid will happen?

[Hirronimus]

I find it funny that they would base their decision on a assumption that came from test server's unreleased trial. Who ta fuck is running SE these days? I'll tell you who.

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[bechyni]

I find it funny that they would base their decision on a assumption that came from test server's unreleased trial. Who ta fuck is running SE these days? I'll tell you who.

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[Atoreis]

Dude, Honestly, this isn't about you and you already having 60 riftdross for your Ukon. Please stop trying to make it about yourself.

And honestly, if they changed ALL of stage 1 to kills instead of items, tough shit for you for buying items before it went live. They wouldnt be "dead" items as they would still be used for afterglow trials.

Basically, you saying "Please don't change stage 1 relic trials because it might affect me and my empy!" is very short sighted and extremely selfish on your part. If it was changed to kills, its not like it would make it harder for you to finish the trial for your emp.

When you have people like Anewie and Pchan on your side of the argument, maybe you should stop and think about that.

I should just say Fuck you because you dont even trying to read.

I should try to ignore you but I will try one more time before i will just blist you.

I will try to avoid short form so you can understand this time.

1. I am not trying to tell you what I want and what I think but I am trying to figure out how people from Square Enix see this
2. I WANT relic trial to be changed BECAUSE I have 4 and soon 6 RELICS to upgreade
3. I WANT Empyrean trial to not be connected with relic trial
4. I would want Relics to be kills instead of items
5. I think (and this is what I am trying to say in like 20 posts now) that SE see this in other way than we
6. In the way SE see this the trials for all 3 types of weapon need to be connected and the same because of balance
7. YES, I THINK that way of thinking is STUPID but I do NOT think we can do anything about it because it is just a matter of them being them with their ideas
8. That is why I try to think about the other method to fix the relics trial
9. SE clearly (for me at least) base decision to not change relic trials on the fact that someone started to gather riftcidner/dross and maybe PW items. I think that because I am 100% sure none have started to gather Umbral Marrow yet.
10. I do not know how you can think that I do not want relic trial to be changed
11. NOW BEST PART - You trying to say that relic trial has nothing to do with empyrean trial at the same time you accusing me that I do not want relic trial to be changed because that might change empyrean trial too. So tell me please how you fucking think that I might be worry for empyrean trial if you think that relic trial changes wont effect empyrean trial? Unless you think that they will and that would mean you think exactly the same as me that both trials are treated as one and they can not be changed separately because SE is retarded.
12. You are fucking retarded if you wont be able to understand it now

[NynJa]

Same argument every time: "U NOOB U DONT READ LEARN TO READ", you're like pchan lol

[Deader2818]

Pretty much what hes become.

And this is the whole point. You think one (relic) will affect the other (empy). I don't personally think it will since people have made it very clear they have an issue with the relic trial being ADL, nothing has been said about empy trial other than its fine.

And like I asked you, which you refused to read, If they changed the relic trial to 20 ADL kills, and lets say for some reason they decided to also make empy trial co-line with this, and you need 60 kills of a T6 VWNM, how would that have any negative affect on you? If that were really the case, i'd say that would be win/win for everyone really.

The other thing people asked for, if it must be 20 items, to please increase the supply that ADL can drop, or make them come from other dynamis NMs. Which again, would have no affect on you.

If you personally want the relic trial to be changed, and if it were to be changed, and if for whatever reason, SE changed mythic/empy to be the same as them due to "balance" over all, it would only be a positive change for you, and nothing negative would happen to you.


Which is why I think all of us are really confused as to what you are really arguing about and the only conclusion we were able to come to, was you would be upset because you already went out and bought all your rift items.

[Atoreis]

Pretty much what hes become.

And this is the whole point. You think one (relic) will affect the other (empy). I don't personally think it will since people have made it very clear they have an issue with the relic trial being ADL, nothing has been said about empy trial other than its fine.

And like I asked you, which you refused to read, If they changed the relic trial to 20 ADL kills, and lets say for some reason they decided to also make empy trial co-line with this, and you need 60 kills of a T6 VWNM, how would that have any negative affect on you? If that were really the case, i'd say that would be win/win for everyone really.

The other thing people asked for, if it must be 20 items, to please increase the supply that ADL can drop, or make them come from other dynamis NMs. Which again, would have no affect on you.

If you personally want the relic trial to be changed, and if it were to be changed, and if for whatever reason, SE changed mythic/empy to be the same as them due to "balance" over all, it would only be a positive change for you, and nothing negative would happen to you.


Which is why I think all of us are really confused as to what you are really arguing about and the only conclusion we were able to come to, was you would be upset because you already went out and bought all your rift items.

Because you fucking cant read or intentionally close your eyes while doing this.

I DONT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH RELIC TRIAL BEING CHANGED TO KILLS EVEN IF THAT WILL CHANGE EMPYREAN TO KILLS ALSO.

I FOR FUCKING LAST TIME TALLING YOU THAT THIS IS HOW I UNDERSTAND SE LOGIC IN THIS CASE. THEY TIDED THOSE TRIALS AND WONT CHANGE ONE BECAUSE PPL STARTED TO GATHER ITEM FOR OTHER.

NO I FUCKING DONT WANT TO THIS BE LIKE THAT BUT THIS IS HOW I THINK SE ACT ABOUT IT

YOU CAN FUCKING SEE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MY GUESSING OF HOW SE THINK AND YOU FUCKING MISTAKE ME ARGUING WITH ME TRYING TO GUESS WHATS IN SE MIND.

YOU OBVIOUSLY CANT FUCKING LEARN FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE TOO BECAUSE YOU WOULD KNOW THAT SE PISS ON NA FORUM AND YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT PPL WRITE ON JP FORUM ABOUT THOSE TRIALS. SO SIMPLY SAYING THAT ITS CLEAR FOR SE BECAUSE 10 PPL AT NA FORUM MADE IT CLEAR ITS BS.

The other thing people asked for, if it must be 20 items, to please increase the supply that ADL can drop, or make them come from other dynamis NMs. Which again, would have no affect on you.

THAT IS FUCKING UNBELIEVABLE. PEOPLE ASKED? REALLY? IM ONE OF THOSE PPL AND I FUCKING WROTE THIS IN EVERY POST ABOUT THIS CASE YOU ARE FUCKING RETARDED.

Basically, you saying "Please don't change stage 1 relic trials because it might affect me and my empy!" is very short sighted and extremely selfish on your part.

I FUCKING TOLD YOU FUCKING 100 TIMES THAT SE PROBABLY WONT FUCKING CHANGE THAT TO KILLS BECAUSE OF THE REASONS I POSTED AND THATS WHY I TRY TO THINK ABOUT OTHER FIX (LIKE THE ONE ABOVE) MAKE RELIC TRIAL BETTER.

100230203232 TIME - I WOULD LIKE TO RELIC TRIALS TO BE CHANGED TO KILLS BUT I DONT THINK IT WILL BE BECAUSE PPL STARTED TO GATHER ITEMS FOR EMPY AND I THINK SE TIDED THOSE QUESTS TOGATHER. IM NOT SAYING I DONT FUCKING WANT THIS TO BE CHANGED BECAUSE I HAVE FUCKING 4-8 RELICS TO MAKE AND I WOULD PISS ON MY DROSSES IF THAT WOULD HELP MY RELICS BUT FOR FUCK SAKE ITS NOT MY OPINION HOW THEY SHOULD FIX THIS BUT MY OPINION OF HOW THEY THINK ABOUT IT AND WHY THEY WONT CHANGE IT.


@NYNJA I am 100% sure that in your case Pchan was 100% right on everything bad he posted about you.


If you guys wanted to rage me and ban from BG then you probably succed. I hope admins wont do it this time but i wont edit this post because i cant think i could write it in other way to morons like you.

[Byrthnoth]

Someone on ffxiah suggested that they don't change the NQ trials, but make the Glow trials kill-dependent. This would let the items retain their value for anyone who has already started collecting, and it would make a long-term supply of helpers for people trying to form ADL parties, PW parties, Botulus Rex/Ig-Alima parties, etc.

[Damane]

Someone on ffxiah suggested that they don't change the NQ trials, but make the Glow trials kill-dependent. This would let the items retain their value for anyone who has already started collecting, and it would make a long-term supply of helpers for people trying to form ADL parties, PW parties, Botulus Rex/Ig-Alima parties, etc.

while it would make sense, I dont see anyone going for 300+ ADL kills just for an Ass-glow weapon. Trial just stinks. I would prefer multiple sources of umbral marrow and PW upgrade items

[isladar]

Pretty much what hes become.

And this is the whole point. You think one (relic) will affect the other (empy). I don't personally think it will since people have made it very clear they have an issue with the relic trial being ADL, nothing has been said about empy trial other than its fine.

And like I asked you, which you refused to read, If they changed the relic trial to 20 ADL kills, and lets say for some reason they decided to also make empy trial co-line with this, and you need 60 kills of a T6 VWNM, how would that have any negative affect on you? If that were really the case, i'd say that would be win/win for everyone really.

The other thing people asked for, if it must be 20 items, to please increase the supply that ADL can drop, or make them come from other dynamis NMs. Which again, would have no affect on you.

If you personally want the relic trial to be changed, and if it were to be changed, and if for whatever reason, SE changed mythic/empy to be the same as them due to "balance" over all, it would only be a positive change for you, and nothing negative would happen to you.


Which is why I think all of us are really confused as to what you are really arguing about and the only conclusion we were able to come to, was you would be upset because you already went out and bought all your rift items.

Because you fucking cant read or intentionally close your eyes while doing this.

I DONT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH RELIC TRIAL BEING CHANGED TO KILLS EVEN IF THAT WILL CHANGE EMPYREAN TO KILLS ALSO.

I FOR FUCKING LAST TIME TALLING YOU THAT THIS IS HOW I UNDERSTAND SE LOGIC IN THIS CASE. THEY TIDED THOSE TRIALS AND WONT CHANGE ONE BECAUSE PPL STARTED TO GATHER ITEM FOR OTHER.

NO I FUCKING DONT WANT TO THIS BE LIKE THAT BUT THIS IS HOW I THINK SE ACT ABOUT IT

YOU CAN FUCKING SEE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MY GUESSING OF HOW SE THINK AND YOU FUCKING MISTAKE ME ARGUING WITH ME TRYING TO GUESS WHATS IN SE MIND.

YOU OBVIOUSLY CANT FUCKING LEARN FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE TOO BECAUSE YOU WOULD KNOW THAT SE PISS ON NA FORUM AND YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT PPL WRITE ON JP FORUM ABOUT THOSE TRIALS. SO SIMPLY SAYING THAT ITS CLEAR FOR SE BECAUSE 10 PPL AT NA FORUM MADE IT CLEAR ITS BS.

The other thing people asked for, if it must be 20 items, to please increase the supply that ADL can drop, or make them come from other dynamis NMs. Which again, would have no affect on you.

THAT IS FUCKING UNBELIEVABLE. PEOPLE ASKED? REALLY? IM ONE OF THOSE PPL AND I FUCKING WROTE THIS IN EVERY POST ABOUT THIS CASE YOU ARE FUCKING RETARDED.

Basically, you saying "Please don't change stage 1 relic trials because it might affect me and my empy!" is very short sighted and extremely selfish on your part.

I FUCKING TOLD YOU FUCKING 100 TIMES THAT SE PROBABLY WONT FUCKING CHANGE THAT TO KILLS BECAUSE OF THE REASONS I POSTED AND THATS WHY I TRY TO THINK ABOUT OTHER FIX (LIKE THE ONE ABOVE) MAKE RELIC TRIAL BETTER.

100230203232 TIME - I WOULD LIKE TO RELIC TRIALS TO BE CHANGED TO KILLS BUT I DONT THINK IT WILL BE BECAUSE PPL STARTED TO GATHER ITEMS FOR EMPY AND I THINK SE TIDED THOSE QUESTS TOGATHER. IM NOT SAYING I DONT FUCKING WANT THIS TO BE CHANGED BECAUSE I HAVE FUCKING 4-8 RELICS TO MAKE AND I WOULD PISS ON MY DROSSES IF THAT WOULD HELP MY RELICS BUT FOR FUCK SAKE ITS NOT MY OPINION HOW THEY SHOULD FIX THIS BUT MY OPINION OF HOW THEY THINK ABOUT IT AND WHY THEY WONT CHANGE IT.


@NYNJA I am 100% sure that in your case Pchan was 100% right on everything bad he posted about you.


If you guys wanted to rage me and ban from BG then you probably succed. I hope admins wont do it this time but i wont edit this post because i cant think i could write it in other way to morons like you.

Just quoting this for posterity, because son, you mad.

[Cleverness]

while it would make sense, I dont see anyone going for 300+ ADL kills just for an Ass-glow weapon. Trial just stinks. I would prefer multiple sources of umbral marrow and PW upgrade items

In the case of Dynamis, there should really be other options because of congestion. With PW pops you have to farm zeni, do abunch of NMs(even if you encounter another group, can just do another path). The empy path there is enough rifts for the amount of people that do VW, on cerb at least. Relic path will have everyone camping the ??? NM pop spots, then everyone camping DL pop spot for the NQ/HQ version. And it's not like you can really just leave, cause then you are locked out for the rest of the day.

Maybe if they just made it a double drop off ADL or single off other Arch bosses, but then everyone would just spam the Arch boss that's easiest to spam.

[Atoreis]

Just quoting this for posterity, because son, you mad.

I was mad indeed but I had a really good reason.

[Darkmagi]

Yeah the retards of this forum can really bring out the rage sometimes. Why in the fuck would atoreis even care if they changed it to kill trials? I'm sure he would be able to get all of those done in a day if they did.

[Sho]

That rage post was amazing.

[bechyni]

CAPS LOCK IS NOT YOUR FRIEND

[Tarage]

I was mad indeed but I had a really good reason.

If by good reason you mean pants on head retarded then yes, you had a very good reason.