Completed Relic/Mythic weapons list

[Auronku]

Did have 2 Melee Parties, both SMN COR Heavy Melee x 4. 3rd Party can largely be just extra SMNs, CORs for reset, or other buffers. We had SCH THF and BRD that we'd put in for Songs before popping. Tried to have either Embrava or Soul Voice songs on the melee parties but rarely both. The last one we did, the melee had no 2-houred buffs, just COR rolls and Haste. Definitely more demanding in terms of numbers to use 2 Perfect Defenses each fight, but if you can load up on COR mules or extra Summoners outside of those 2 Melee parties, helps you get in more pops.

[Tachi]

Don't forget to ask your summoners to use Inferno Howl. Enfire is very rarely resisted on ADL (it's still a level 90 NM) and does 45 damage per hit with 500 skill.

Has anyone PERSONALLY (not I heard from so and so) tried widescan tracking or putting a pet on ADL before it clones? There's gotta be something that can be used to distinguish which one is real... I hope...

Avatars return to the player when he splits.

[Mahoro]

Pchan claiming on official forums that 1st ADL clone pops at a hard 30 seconds after pop. This doesn't seem right to me. I wasn't timing the fight my shell did last week, but it seemed like the whole fight took 30 seconds total which included the clone time.

[NynJa]

he's also been claiming for 2 weeks hes gonna post a video of how easy ADL is...including duoing all the pop NM's.

[Jem]

I think it's a mix of HP and time. It wouldn't surprise me if it was something like:

1. If X amount of time has passed and HP is below Y then clone
2. If HP is below Z then attempt to clone regardless

When we got the triple clone at like ~30%, there had been way less than 30 seconds. Probably closer to 15-20.

If it was 30 seconds, people would be dropping him before he cloned.

[Mahoro]

I think that sounds right Jem. It is more in line with my experiences.

[Jem]

Mocchi's Dev Post today talks about Relics trials. I can't really understand much of it though (just using google translate). It does say stage 2 requirements have been reduced (stage 1 remain).

Then something about congestion. Someone else have a look at it and see if they can makes heads or tails of it. On my phone at the minute so limited in what i can do.

it's the top Dev Post.

[Byrthnoth]

The top thing in the "Dev Tracker" JP subforum (apparently weekly summaries) hints at potentially nerfing Tantra Cyclas +2's effect on Impetus, I think.

[Churchill]

レリックウェポン
第1段階強化必要個数：5個
第2段階強化必要個数：250個
ミシックウェポン
第1段階強化必要個数：3個
第2段階強化必要個数：150個
エンピリアンウェポン
第1段階強化必要個数：60個
第2段階強化必要個数：3,000個

Just looks like 5/250 Relic 3/150 Mythic 60/3000 Emp

[Byrthnoth]

150 PWs . . . if I could dualbox them, I would honestly consider it.

[Taint]

Probably confirms that dross/cinder will be coming from additional sources in the future.

[noodles355]

Starting to annoy me how they always release stuff in JP first. You'd think they could hold the info until it's been properly translated and then release it all together.

[Bigsyke]

Starting to annoy me how they always release stuff in JP first. You'd think they could hold the info until it's been properly translated and then release it all together.

This, and a thousand times this.

They also seem to release info in JP on Fridays a lot of times. Then we are forced to wait until Monday or later to get a proper translation, when their dev posts could have several implications...

[Phraust]

Probably confirms that dross/cinder will be coming from additional sources in the future.

That's what people thought about Heavy Metal Plates =\

Stage 1 is x, Stage 2 is 50x... SO I believe SE thinks those numbers are "reasonable"...

But then again there are still chapters left in Voidwatch... and Zilart = Pouches od Plates, maybe Aht Urghan = Pouches of Riftcinder/dross...

I doubt it. If we see a change it'll likely be a year+ from now... at the next level cap... when the re-release of FFXIV re-fails...

[Taint]

That's what people thought about Heavy Metal Plates =\

Stage 1 is x, Stage 2 is 50x... SO I believe SE thinks those numbers are "reasonable"...

But then again there are still chapters left in Voidwatch... and Zilart = Pouches od Plates, maybe Aht Urghan = Pouches of Riftcinder/dross...

I doubt it. If we see a change it'll likely be a year+ from now... at the next level cap... when the re-release of FFXIV re-fails...

Based on the near non existent HMP supply I'd put a good wager on more HMP pouches for the next update and a couple more mobs that drop single dross/cinders. Doing a 95 emp is getting harder by the day and will get worst with Nyzul and Legion coming into play. If you bazaar hop on Cerberus there are plenty of dross/cinder sitting in bazaars (600k-1mil) and very very few plates even at 200k.

Or SE could just be trolling....

[Bigsyke]

Based on the near non existent HMP supply I'd put a good wager on more HMP pouches for the next update and a couple more mobs that drop single dross/cinders. Doing a 95 emp is getting harder by the day and will get worst with Nyzul and Legion coming into play. If you bazaar hop on Cerberus there are plenty of dross/cinder sitting in bazaars (600k-1mil) and very very few plates even at 200k.

Or SE could just be trolling....

I'd place a wager on the latter.

[Diomer]

150 PWs . . . if I could dualbox them, I would honestly consider it.

I was considering it @ 500... not even a consideration for me if it's 150... that's actually a reasonable number.

[Byrthnoth]

I don't know... I can't really ask four friends to help me farm / kill just so I can glow. I also can't ask four friends to help me kill 75 times. At 10mil each, 150 is 1.5 billion gil. I'd rather avoid that too.

[Diomer]

I don't know... I can't really ask four friends to help me farm / kill just so I can glow. I also can't ask four friends to help me kill 75 times. At 10mil each, 150 is 1.5 billion gil. I'd rather avoid that too.

You should be able to 2 box everything besides PW and don't even really need that much help for him.

[Byrthnoth]

You should be able to 2 box everything besides PW and don't even really need that much help for him.

Yeah, but if you don't get anyone to hold pops for you then you can only kill two per gathering of friends with your 2-box. 75 gatherings of friends would get old.