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  1. #10921
    HABS SUCK!!!!!
    Sepukku is my Hero
    Therrien's Cum Dumpster

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    from what I remember being posted here, you can, for only a couple seconds...they ultimately all share hate....

    http://www.veryicon.com/icon/png/Obj...ulb%20Full.png

    If they all share hate, is it possible the clones will all migrate to defend the real one, or will they all migrate to the one with the highest enmity total?

  2. #10922
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    If you can zerg the first form down to say 10%, the clones are all at 10% right? Couldn't you just cleave/aga/aoe them all down at once?

  3. #10923
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmagi View Post
    I'm curious on how big the battlefield is, and if it is possible to separate clones.
    The problem is the AoEs are stupid big, at least conally. We had someone attack one of the clones and face it a bad direction and it decided to Tera Slash towards people waiting 40' away and wipe out at least 10+ characters which was kinda funny but sucked too. I'm not sold on the sharing hate thing; doesn't seem like they do. Tera Slash is going to be the biggest issue of a slow fight though.

  4. #10924
    Blue Magic is Best Magic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kidnoftle View Post
    DL is duoable.
    Setup?

  5. #10925
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    BLU sudden lunge was fucking him up in my trio setup, but I would think something like MNK healer?

  6. #10926
    HABS SUCK!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diomer View Post
    I'm not sold on the sharing hate thing; doesn't seem like they do.
    I'm pretty sure I read that people tried to split the clones up, but they just returned to rape face on 1 person for no reason.

  7. #10927
    Ridill
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  8. #10928
    Sea Torques
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    You could make so much spaghetti.

  9. #10929
    Cerberus
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    Or meat ball hoagies.

  10. #10930
    Ridill
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    Or fish up all the gugrusaurus that is paying for this lol

  11. #10931
    CoP Dynamis
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    Got this a few days ago, working on trials ofc. And yeah, starting Ragnarok as well. Really liking this weapon so far.

    http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h.../ffxi_2012.png

  12. #10932
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    Arch DL isn't bad at all.

    Doesn't have regain, he slept us right on the pop. (bring poison pots) And we spent the next minute or so asleep with no PD, nothing. Got PD up after a lot of our buffs wore and managed to take him down quite easy. Pretty much a PUG group I made from shouting and FL. We only had 1 SMN and nobody died in our group of 12. Anyways he's way more doable then most make him out to be, keep TP feed down, have a stun ready for gay moves and PD for when he splits. I can post SSs if people want.



  13. #10933
    Flowery Twats
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    That's a woosh right? It must be...

    Are you really replying "Hey guys I beat him once and it was easy, idk what you're complaining about" to a topic that's basically gone: he's easy as long as he doesn't use this particular dick TP move?

  14. #10934
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredjan View Post
    Got this a few days ago, working on trials ofc. And yeah, starting Ragnarok as well. Really liking this weapon so far.

    I think DRK/war with Ragnarok might be now on par or better than Ukonvasara WAR at VW(better if fight will end in 3min of last resort). Definietely doing one for myself too. Will complete my DRK and WAR (I think it might beat ukonvasara for WAR at events like Nyzul when ODD from Ukko will be down a lot).

  15. #10935
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    Yeah I can say for sure that DRK/WAR with ragnarok is better than ukon on fights that require the extra atk(Ig-alima etc.)and are dying within or shortly after last resort duration.

  16. #10936
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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles355 View Post
    That's a woosh right? It must be...

    Are you really replying "Hey guys I beat him once and it was easy, idk what you're complaining about" to a topic that's basically gone: he's easy as long as he doesn't use this particular dick TP move?


    He is completely managable while in single form, a couple stunners and some sleep pots. When he splits you put up PD since he isn't as managable and take him down. He doesn't regain so that can be used to a ptys advantage.

    While he isn't fool proof and has some dick moves. (I fought him plenty at 90cap) He is much more managable then zerg zerg zerg and hope you get lucky.

  17. #10937
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    I think DRK/war with Ragnarok might be now on par or better than Ukonvasara WAR at VW(better if fight will end in 3min of last resort). Definietely doing one for myself too. Will complete my DRK and WAR (I think it might beat ukonvasara for WAR at events like Nyzul when ODD from Ukko will be down a lot).


    How do you think the SaveTP nerf will effect Rag? I play with a few Rag users and have yet to be impressed with the weapon besides when a WAR 2hrs with it and spams resolution. I want one, I just can't convince myself its worth it.

  18. #10938
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    i got almost enough currency to make a mandau or ragnarok but since i got borealis, im making a mandau but still have a thought of making a ragnarok....

    from my own testing from 100 WS, doing spinning slash w/o any DA/TA gears on ronfare rabbits, Borealis proc rate is 16% (prolly 15%) and average non proc WS damage is 1338.6, while proc WS damage is 2214.4

    that is around 65%ish WS increase, but i would prolly say its actual region is 60%

    100 may be small sample, but looking at the 15% proc rate and 60% WS damage increase, how does borealis fare VS 95 ragnarok?

    idk how to test multi hit WS to see if proc is per hit or not.... u guys could kindly advise so i can test multi hit....

  19. #10939
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthars View Post
    i got almost enough currency to make a mandau or ragnarok but since i got borealis, im making a mandau but still have a thought of making a ragnarok....

    from my own testing from 100 WS, doing spinning slash w/o any DA/TA gears on ronfare rabbits, Borealis proc rate is 16% (prolly 15%) and average non proc WS damage is 1338.6, while proc WS damage is 2214.4

    that is around 65%ish WS increase, but i would prolly say its actual region is 60%

    100 may be small sample, but looking at the 15% proc rate and 60% WS damage increase, how does borealis fare VS 95 ragnarok?

    idk how to test multi hit WS to see if proc is per hit or not.... u guys could kindly advise so i can test multi hit....
    Well its not even a competition here. Ragnarok wins by a lot.

  20. #10940
    Salvage Bans
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    sorry, I'd say do a rag or a brovura just for having the two coolest named weaponskills in the game.

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