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  1. #10981
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    The update notes imply it as Nitecon refers to, assuming its an increase in proc rate when it says "Increased chance of dealing extra damage" on the 99 weapon, unless its just poorly worded on there part and no difference from the 95 weapon. Haven't seen anyone mention it though, was curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitecon View Post
    I tho it was tested already that its just description of 95 lvl boost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    I tho it was tested already that its just description of 95 lvl boost.
    Thats a bit of a bummer if true, i hadn't seen that info though i guess i just assumed from the update notes it was an increase to 99 from the 95 version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kidnoftle View Post
    Thought I read somewhere earlier that ADL can be stunned and can't seem to find it atm. Am I hallucinating or, if not, how fast does adl build resistance to it.
    Might have been my post. If you watch the ADL videos on youtube, they are able to stun him. I'm not sure how fast his resistance builds, but the videos were made back at the 90 cap I believe, so it must not be too bad now @99.

    It seems kinda pointless though as his dangerous tp moves are used almost instantly. Even with a script or something, I doubt you could stun them. I'm still curious if reaving wind sticks.

  5. #10985
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kidnoftle View Post
    Thought I read somewhere earlier that ADL can be stunned and can't seem to find it atm. Am I hallucinating or, if not, how fast does adl build resistance to it.


    You can stun him just fine, haven't seen a resist yet with our RDM/BLM stunning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthars View Post
    does this mean theres no need for PD? :D

    and also if the one you guys pick is the clone, someone just peel off another, and repeat till real is dead?

    if no need PD for this, i would say this strat is pure win +_+
    Sorry for late reply, but yeah you still need PD or your zerg pt will get destroyed.
    There is no shared hate as far as ive seen, each clone seems to be on its own hate table, all this strat does is make it more manageable but it doesnt make it an easy win. I want to say that direct dmg vs say a flash would keep the clone on the kiter but i cant confirm this.

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    I want to see an all BST alliance mow him down over and over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    I tho it was tested already that its just description of 95 lvl boost.
    I recall it being a very very small sample size, but can't find the actual post right now. Might be wrong though.

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    Is death part of ADL's instacast list? Or is that only post AI change?

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    Have seen it cast death pre-split if that's what you mean. It didn't instacast though.

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    That's very strange. Would be nice to have taint's logger of his attempt, what he experienced is far and away easier than what my group had to deal w/ last night .-.

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    Here is our strat.

    Set up is MNK,SAM,DRK,WAR,RandomDD,BRD

    Mule pty is THF,WHM,WHM,WHM,SMN,RDM

    BRD puts up marchs and swaps with the SMN then we pop.

    Before he splits I dual box the RDM and CS stun him while the MNK and the SAM take him to 50%. PD at ~60% it needs to be up before he splits since he will split then TP move right away. All DDs engage one and zerg him down, repeat if needed.

    Other notes:

    DDs back to the wall incase of knockback, same goes for the SMN. RDM needs to be away from the WHMs because he can pull aggro after the split. (hate is really wierd sometimes when he splits) Random stuns whenever possible and pray he doesn't do anything too gay. Sleep pots are also a must for his sleepga spam.

    If we had more then 6-8+ mules I would kill both the spawns at the same time and call it a day.

    Hopefully finishing Apoc99 tonight ^^

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    That seems a bit overkill;
    Spoiler: show


    video above is how we kill it every time, sometimes we get unlucky and end up kill the shadow, but ADL falls over, he's got pathetic defense, and I don't think we've ever used angon on any of the fights, usually go with ATK heavy DDs (SAM, WAR, DRK, MNK) and then tossing a THF in for placebo hunter.

    We'll never have a 100% win rate, due to the possibility of dynamic implosion and tera slash procing death and killing a few DDs possibly, but I think that applies to everyone cause even if you chainspell stun one, you're gonna have the risk of the other one wanting to use those TP attacks from getting TP by hitting the other players.

    Buffs; Embrava, 2x Minuet, Hastega, Miser's and Chaos roll in that video, did 2 yesterday with just double march cause our SCH was sick

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shenrien View Post
    That seems a bit overkill;
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    video above is how we kill it every time, sometimes we get unlucky and end up kill the shadow, but ADL falls over, he's got pathetic defense, and I don't think we've ever used angon on any of the fights, usually go with ATK heavy DDs (SAM, WAR, DRK, MNK) and then tossing a THF in for placebo hunter.

    We'll never have a 100% win rate, due to the possibility of dynamic implosion and tera slash procing death and killing a few DDs possibly, but I think that applies to everyone cause even if you chainspell stun one, you're gonna have the risk of the other one wanting to use those TP attacks from getting TP by hitting the other players.

    Buffs; Embrava, 2x Minuet, Hastega, Miser's and Chaos roll in that video, did 2 yesterday with just double march cause our SCH was sick


    Doesn't seem a whole lot different then our strat. We don't have a SCH and 1 BRD. We CS so we can put PD up at 60% which just buys us more time during the clone part. We also slow kill to 50% then use JAs when he splits. Kinda doing the same thing you just do it was sooner where we wait and take it slow while he's in cupcake mode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diomer View Post
    Funny sig
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    If it's old drama, oh well, too bad, but what exactly did Bechyni do? He a RL friend who stole gil from you to fund Aegis?

    Disclaimer: I in no way shape or form know either of you. Just a bystander wondering what the backstory behind your funny sig is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noob View Post
    Off topic warning
    If it's old drama, oh well, too bad, but what exactly did Bechyni do? He a RL friend who stole gil from you to fund Aegis?

    Disclaimer: I in no way shape or form know either of you. Just a bystander wondering what the backstory behind your funny sig is.
    Please God, just put nvm and pm him if you want to know. That stupid drama does not need to shit up another thread...

  18. #10998
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    Yeah really, lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shenrien View Post
    That seems a bit overkill
    overkill or not, it doesnt matter on ADL as long as you win since theres no 100% win mode like u said

    only strat worth considering over your own winning one for now is if someone come up with a 100% win method, aka identifying the real ADL

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    You can get it down to like 30% in like 20 seconds with PD / embrava / minuets / chaos / miser's granted you have like 8 good DDs, thats way more than enough time to kill whichever one is a clone. You should have plenty enough time to do it with any other setup really. The guy is a pussy.

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