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  1. #11221
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    Enlight adds accuracy, Endark adds attack.

  2. #11222
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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    Need to get Atoreis in here so you can argue with someone and both be wrong.
    http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/641/atoman.png

    I saw the signal! What's up?!

  3. #11223
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    What are you even wearing in that picture?

  4. #11224
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haborym View Post
    What are you even wearing in that picture?
    Never thought that would be important in that case but Grim body and Ogier's helm..

  5. #11225
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    Picture loses points for being on warrior instead of Dark Knight. 7/10

  6. #11226
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chamaan View Post
    Picture loses points for being on warrior instead of Dark Knight. 7/10
    I was at work and only had ss already wrote at imageshack but yeah.. I need to agree DRK would fit much better here :/

  7. #11227
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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    If you are buffing your DD's properly, your attack advantage becomes irrelevant and all that matters is whose attacks land harder - not only is Ukon99 higher base D, but it's 2 weapon ranks higher than Rag99.
    Why ppl even care to mention it and make it look like its very important? Its only +2 to base damage, not even a 1% increase for your WS. The difference that comes from higher base stats of Elvaan over Taru is more significant....

  8. #11228
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    Why ppl even care to mention it and make it look like its very important? Its only +2 to base damage, not even a 1% increase for your WS. The difference that comes from higher base stats of Elvaan over Taru is more significant....
    I like how people use math and all this derp derp shit and everyonefails to mention other things that can make you parse considerable higher.

    -Noone mentions race in thiese math equations.
    -Noone mentions food in these math equations.
    -The single most IMPORTANT thing to parse higher than another.... Noone mentions CONNECTION SPEED.

    I don't care if you have a 99 apoc and I have 99 DNC mythic. If the DNC is playing a top notch T3 connection on a brand new custom PC in a zerg and the DRK is playing on a dial up modem or low speed Cable modem on a PS2.... then the DRK is losing parse. Its just the way the cookie crumbles.

  9. #11229
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    There's a food besides hydra kofte/red curry bun?

  10. #11230
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zag View Post
    I like how people use math and all this derp derp shit and everyonefails to mention other things that can make you parse considerable higher.

    -Noone mentions race in thiese math equations.
    -Noone mentions food in these math equations.
    -The single most IMPORTANT thing to parse higher than another.... Noone mentions CONNECTION SPEED.

    I don't care if you have a 99 apoc and I have 99 DNC mythic. If the DNC is playing a top notch T3 connection on a brand new custom PC in a zerg and the DRK is playing on a dial up modem or low speed Cable modem on a PS2.... then the DRK is losing parse. Its just the way the cookie crumbles.
    I think the reason no one mentions that shit is because it's fucking expected you aren't playing on AOL 7.0 or a dumbass.

  11. #11231
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    Why ppl even care to mention it and make it look like its very important? Its only +2 to base damage, not even a 1% increase for your WS. The difference that comes from higher base stats of Elvaan over Taru is more significant....
    i may be misunderstanding something here, but 99 ukon is 13 base dmg higher than 99 rag, and 2 weapon ranks higher. i have a hard time believing the players race has a higher affect on dmg than 13 base dmg, 2 weapon ranks, and the resulting higher Fstr cap

  12. #11232
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaggnix View Post
    i may be misunderstanding something here, but 99 ukon is 13 base dmg higher than 99 rag, and 2 weapon ranks higher. i have a hard time believing the players race has a higher affect on dmg than 13 base dmg, 2 weapon ranks, and the resulting higher Fstr cap
    Never wrote anything about base damage difference.
    All I said is I wonder why ppl point out difference in weapon rank when in many cases its not even useable because you cant cap fSTR and if you can its some very marginal thing.

  13. #11233
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    3 new toys in the last month :D

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  14. #11234
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    One of these is not like the other. In other news, SE should remove the wait timers on relics. My 3 new toys are going to take 33 days.

  15. #11235
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairthenn View Post
    One of these is not like the other. In other news, SE should remove the wait timers on relics. My 3 new toys are going to take 33 days.


    It gives you time to do the trials between weapons...personally I hope I never do another Relic.

  16. #11236
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    True. Most of my Spharai ones were done while I wasn't at my PC, and that still took me over a month to motivate myself.

  17. #11237
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  18. #11238
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathayus View Post
    OH MY GOD!


    I see your Laevateinn and raise you:
    http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...amuh/99lae.png

    Testing is incoming.

    I still hate this staff.

    200tp is +30MAB, 299tp is 49 or 50. Durations and effects seem to be exactly the same as 95 staff. ES is still 10% boost.
    My Leavateinn is 95 now, also I see your AF2+2 and raise you Nares and Valk Trews Augmented.

    Your posted stats. (diamond ring augmented?)
    Lv99 Leavateinn BeanBean INT+32 MAB+123 MAC+25
    lv95 Leavateinn Nugzkraka INT+32 MAB+137 MAC+34




    In addition I find this weapon really fun in VW

  19. #11239
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    Laev is one of the few weapons I've posted the testing for on bgwiki, if you guys want to skip some testing: https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Laevateinn

  20. #11240
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nugzkraka View Post
    My Leavateinn is 95 now, also I see your AF2+2 and raise you Nares and Valk Trews Augmented.

    Your posted stats. (diamond ring augmented?)
    Lv99 Leavateinn BeanBean INT+32 MAB+123 MAC+25
    lv95 Leavateinn Nugzkraka INT+32 MAB+137 MAC+34




    In addition I find this weapon really fun in VW
    You should merry Shantotto

    Btw I know its probably best set but I would still use at least 2 piece of af3+2 when you are doing some regular easy stuff like VW for occasionally fun numbers.

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