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  1. #11301
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    Im on 0/90 ish

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  2. #11302
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    It's not even zerging, basically any event where you get minimal buffs (I assume even pop farming for ADL you have those) you don't need more than 12% haste. For every other relevant event you don't need to even attempt to get haste basically, and you need very few pieces of STP gear (never tactical mantle...).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthars View Post
    42+ 15 is exactly how much i need to 5hitpoc 6 hit rag using a 6stp ws gear setup
    13.9*1.57= 21.8
    13.9*1.21= 16.8

    21.8*4+16.8=104

    Only thing that you exactly need is calculator...

    11*1.57=17.2
    11*1.21=13.3

    Thats 99.3 assuming one hit will land. avg you will land 4/5 at least and that will put you at 102.3 I also have no idea where you gonna use Ragnarok and you wont have any kind of regain at the same time.

    Oh yeah he cant see this. Someone copy this for him lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    13.9*1.57= 21.8
    13.9*1.21= 16.8

    21.8*4+16.8=104

    Only thing that you exactly need is calculator...

    11*1.57=17.2
    11*1.21=13.3

    Thats 99.3 assuming one hit will land. avg you will land 4/5 at least and that will put you at 102.3 I also have no idea where you gonna use Ragnarok and you wont have any kind of regain at the same time.

    Oh yeah he cant see this. Someone copy this for him lol.
    I'll quote it for you since you saved me a job. Saw those numbers before I set off for work and they seemed way off to me as well but didn't have chance to crunch them before setting off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falaras View Post
    It's not even zerging, basically any event where you get minimal buffs (I assume even pop farming for ADL you have those) you don't need more than 12% haste. For every other relevant event you don't need to even attempt to get haste basically, and you need very few pieces of STP gear (never tactical mantle...).
    our adl grp is all 9x dual box

    for farming, we dont have marches sometimes cos most of us on smn or cor, theres 2 brd at most but we dont switch pt just for buffs for farming

    we kept our dual box acct in same pt for sneak and invis and pretty much just farm with haste spell

    also ur math on /war
    11*1.57=17.2
    11*1.21=13.3
    it should be
    11*1.57 = 17.2
    11*1.10 = 12.1 as i WS in rose strap, brutal and rajas only on /war
    that is 98.1 tp
    +3tp for all 4 hits landing giving me able to miss 1 hit for resolution

    like i said, i am aware that all event now u prolly have buffs/regain etc

    im just stating /war 6 hit rag math w/o any buffs.

    Obviously, as i said again, i am not TPing in full 52 stp for now on /war since im prolly in events where i get buffs/regain

    if im somehow soloing on drk, or not getting enough haste buff/regain farming something, yes i will switch to the proposed 52 stp set on /war

    my general TP set will be switching porthos/ogier <> 5-6stp armadaberk and ogier hand <> bale +2 as soon i can get those god damn tatters

    90 tries and best i got is 4 subtle blow and 2 DA, no joke, all with exact element alignment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthars View Post
    our adl grp is all 9x dual box

    for farming, we dont have marches sometimes cos most of us on smn or cor, theres 2 brd at most but we dont switch pt just for buffs for farming

    we kept our dual box acct in same pt for sneak and invis and pretty much just farm with haste spell

    also ur math on /war


    it should be
    11*1.57 = 17.2
    11*1.10 = 12.1 as i WS in rose strap, brutal and rajas only on /war
    that is 98.1 tp
    +3tp for all 4 hits landing giving me able to miss 1 hit for resolution

    like i said, i am aware that all event now u prolly have buffs/regain etc

    im just stating /war 6 hit rag math w/o any buffs.

    Obviously, as i said again, i am not TPing in full 52 stp for now on /war since im prolly in events where i get buffs/regain

    if im somehow soloing on drk, or not getting enough haste buff/regain farming something, yes i will switch to the proposed 52 stp set on /war

    my general TP set will be switching porthos/ogier <> 5-6stp armadaberk and ogier hand <> bale +2 as soon i can get those god damn tatters

    90 tries and best i got is 4 subtle blow and 2 DA, no joke, all with exact element alignment
    That has no sense. You said that event you do when you miss marches and/or regain is farming pops for ADL and you said you are /sam there. Please tell me the one event where you are /war and you have no regain and/or marches/embrava/haste.

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    yes i am /sam in adl farms

    i did not say i am /war on adl farm, altho sometimes i have to /war farm if unlucky on wild cards

    obviously there isnt any event where we have no regain and/or marches/embrava/haste for now

    my /war stp argument is only talking abt paper math w/o buff period

    does that make u read easier?

    im done explaining, back to focusing on my signature because im done with u

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthars View Post
    yes i am /sam in adl farms

    i did not say i am /war on adl farm, altho sometimes i have to /war farm if unlucky on wild cards

    obviously there isnt any event where we have no regain and/or marches/embrava/haste for now

    my /war stp argument is only talking abt paper math w/o buff period

    does that make u read easier?

    im done explaining, back to focusing on my signature because im done with u
    What you mean by Wild Card affecting your sub?
    So you agree that your set have no real use.. ok..
    Couldnt understand that 3rd bolded part.
    You didnt explain anything you made it even more confusing.

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    He's implying that he farms sets in 1 run and then pops in another, I'm assuming that means he would be /war for the ADL kill nights. Bad wildcard luck=extra time left over to farm more pops.

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    some people's intel just better than others

    thank you darkmagi

    also i did not say my set have any real use. It is just a set on paper to show how i can make /war 6 hit-able on rag. I dont even use it. if i am somehow caught in a situation where this set can be useful, maybe soon, maybe never, at least i got it.

  11. #11311
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthars View Post
    some people's intel just better than others

    thank you darkmagi

    also i did not say my set have any real use. It is just a set on paper to show how i can make /war 6 hit-able on rag. I dont even use it. if i am somehow caught in a situation where this set can be useful, maybe soon, maybe never, at least i got it.
    If its on paper why you have it on screenshot? Now you gonna tell me its town gear probably.

  12. #11312
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    that is not a rose strap and tactical mantle, so how is THAT the set i mentioned about /war 6 hit

    my god....... this dude need help

    stop responding to my post srsly, your a gigantic waste of time

    and i am also a gigantic waste of time to you

    leave me alone and i leave u alone ok princess?

    thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Fievel View Post
    Why the fuck do you people still argue with Atoreis? We all know he's a fucking moron and nothing is going to change that.
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    Your ss equip has 42-45 sTP in it thats exactly what you suggested just with other items. You are also /sam.
    Only person who act like princess here is you. You tried to defend your equip choices with poor excuses then when failed you tried to tell its only your choices on paper and finally you have just thrown your ace card that I'm waste of time.
    I might be a waste of time but that wont change the fact that you equip wrong gear and cant admit it. Only reason you havent got more bad responses is because ppl doesnt like to be on my side.

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    ladies, ladies, you're both beautiful

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    yes i am /sam, that was when i farm adl pop set

    stp and haste gear cos i said before we dont get full buff on farming

    just go and read carefully wat i said on previous post

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyramion
    He actually is one smart motherfucker and plays really well, yet... I think because he's from easter Europe mostly, has like 0 social skills. That got him kicked out of the current topdawg LS on Baha, too 5-6 weeks ago.

    /random banter end
    reason people dont side you is because your a fucking moron

    sorry Lyramion, gotta drag ur ass into this one

    i srsly cant stand this moron, BG need a function not only to block someone's message but to erase him completely so u dont even see any garbage quotes from him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthars View Post
    yes i am /sam, that was when i farm adl pop set

    stp and haste gear cos i said before we dont get full buff on farming

    just go and read carefully wat i said on previous post



    reason people dont side you is because your a fucking moron

    sorry Lyramion, gotta drag ur ass into this one

    i srsly cant stand this moron, BG need a function not only to block someone's message but to erase him completely so u dont even see any garbage quotes from him
    Start taking donations to get him banned. Prepare for the crash of umbral marrow market on Odin.

    PS. I'm 90% sure JP's have a secret way to dupe marrows.

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    Both of them are annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthars View Post
    yes i am /sam, that was when i farm adl pop set

    stp and haste gear cos i said before we dont get full buff on farming

    just go and read carefully wat i said on previous post



    reason people dont side you is because your a fucking moron

    sorry Lyramion, gotta drag ur ass into this one

    i srsly cant stand this moron, BG need a function not only to block someone's message but to erase him completely so u dont even see any garbage quotes from him
    You are the one who is aggressive here and start calling me moron and waste of time as an argument. Even if my posts make you angry I still write nothing wrong. It's not my fault that you go crazy whenever someone will poke your fails. Anyway you can smile inside because that is my last post directed to you.

  19. #11319
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    I feel like i've heard this claim before.

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    fuck's sake what did I start.

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