Completed Relic/Mythic weapons list

[macross]

Pup can easily keep up with sam in dynamis, vs DC mobs. Bst not even close. Just the automaton itself can outdmg both the bst and his pet together. Perhaps not the god of Bsts, but your avg run of the mill dyna farming beast, easily.

[pre]Damage Summary
Player               Total Dmg   Damage %   Melee Dmg   Range Dmg   Abil. Dmg  WSkill Dmg   Spell Dmg  Other Dmg   Absorbed Dmg

GorefangHobs            228091    15.61 %      187251           0       40288           0           0        552              0
Mao                     412685    28.24 %       83903       98246      201838       17130           0      11568              0

Total                  1461319   100.00 %      802756       98246      440252       72925           0      12120              0


Melee Damage
Player            Melee Dmg  Abs'd.Dmg   Net Dmg   Melee %   Hit/Miss    M.HR %   M.Acc %  M.Low/Hi  M+0.Avg  M-0.Avg
GorefangHobs         187251          0    187251   82.09 %      802/0  100.00 %  100.00 %   138/296   214.98   214.98
Mao                   83903          0     83903   20.33 %     563/34   94.30 %   94.30 %    94/222   144.37   144.37


Melee Crit Damage
Player                #Crit  C.Low/Hi   C-0.Avg     Crit%

GorefangHobs            114   284/410    345.11   14.21 %
Mao                      27   189/283    241.48    4.80 %


Ranged Damage
Player            Range Dmg   Range %   Hit/Miss    R.HR %   R.Acc %  R.Low/Hi  R+0.Avg  R-0.Avg  #Crit  C.Low/Hi   C-0.Avg     Crit%
Mao                   98246   23.81 %     309/16   95.08 %   95.08 %       0/0   317.95   317.95      0   248/438      0.00    0.00 %

Other Magical Damage  (Additional Effects and Spikes)
Player            M.AE Dmg  # M.AE  M.AE Avg   R.AE Dmg  # R.AE  R.AE Avg   Spk.Dmg  # Spike  Spk.Avg
GorefangHobs           552      13     42.46          0       0      0.00         0        0     0.00
Mao                  11568     281     41.17          0       0      0.00         0        0     0.00

Weaponskill Damage
Player                 WSkill Dmg  Abs'd.Dmg   Net Dmg   WSkill %  Hit/Miss   WS.Acc %   WS.Low/Hi   WS.Avg
Mao                         17130          0     17130     4.15 %      22/1    95.65 %    489/1193   778.64
 - Arcuballista              7273          0      7273    42.46 %      13/0   100.00 %     489/611   559.46
 - Daze                      9857          0      9857    57.54 %       9/1    90.00 %    944/1193  1095.22


Ability Damage
Player                  Abil. Dmg  Abs'd.Dmg   Net Dmg    Abil. %  Hit/Miss    A.Acc %    A.Low/Hi    A.Avg
GorefangHobs                40288          0     40288    17.66 %      68/0   100.00 %    250/1046   592.47
 - Claw Cyclone              8012          0      8012    19.89 %      19/0   100.00 %     250/672   421.68
 - Razor Fang               32276          0     32276    80.11 %      49/0   100.00 %    483/1046   658.69
Mao                        201838          0    201838    48.91 %     104/6    94.55 %    372/2340  1940.75
 - Armor Shatterer         179055          0    179055    88.71 %      78/6    92.86 %   2205/2340  2295.58
 - Barrage Turbine          22783          0     22783    11.29 %      26/0   100.00 %    372/1215   876.27

old parse vs DC stuff in dynamis valk. Mao is my automaton. The magic dmg is from the enthunder the automaton has.

Anyhow, if songs and shit affected blue mage spells or automatons, they would be pretty damn strong.

[Omnipotent]

I would disagree with your one parse. No one uses Gorefang in Dynamis first of all, and second, come to Quetz, I'll show you how BST does work.

[macross]

I would disagree with your one parse. No one uses Gorefang in Dynamis first of all, and second, come to Quetz, I'll show you how BST does work.

I don't solo in dynamis. I have a real thief there, thus I use gorefang. Lets see some of your bst parses vs dc stuff then. I showed you mine, show me yours. I see quite a few people using gorefang anyways. There's no need to show me how bsts works, a parse will do.

But like I said, the god of bst players will do more than your run of the mill bst farmer. In any case, this is just the automaton. While it might not out dmg your bst+pet, it will be close.

[pchan]

Legion matters and my war can't hit things so it's hard and worthwhile. 2H DD usual bullcrap.

DDign 101 : if your acc sucks eat sushi. Also no you just have to use motenten's spreadsheet to know wether 2h DD are better or not. They are not. The one that doesn't suck is WAR and next is SAM and DRG only if they got a myhtic. Also legion doesn't matter because the gear is completely fail which everyone has been pointing out since release I believe ? It's a bone thrown at elite wannabe.

[Darkmagi]

Have you even looked into DRK in the spreadsheet? I assure you that DRK is excellent on anything without capped atk or uncapped delay reduction. Also solid even if above are capped when you account for souleater and slight increase in delay reduction over jobs like WAR. The only 2handers that are lackluster are SAM and DRG without mythics.

[Guitarman]

Dear lord. Anyone else feel like that episode of family guy with the stubborn mule? These two refuse to hear anything besides what they want to hear.

Spoiler: show

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[Jeryhn]

Something about PUP.

You clearly haven't seen a RDM tearing through low level mobs. RDM is so easily dismissed by everyone even though it really shouldn't. The reason why RDMs live in this "magical land" is because 99.999999% of the playerbase has never played RDM, seen a good RDM, or know how RDM works. In the same sense that you and everyone's mother knows what other DD jobs can do because everyone and their mother has played them and they're so prevalent. Go play RDM before you make a judgment. I'm not ignoring the strengths of any job, but everyone completely ignores RDM's strengths.

Please don't sig me, this is, in its entirety, a joke. Like PUP.

[Yugl]

As a mod, I almost feel contractually obligated to move some of these posts to the Random Phail thread.

[macross]

DDign 101 : if your acc sucks eat sushi. Also no you just have to use motenten's spreadsheet to know wether 2h DD are better or not. They are not. The one that doesn't suck is WAR and next is SAM and DRG only if they got a myhtic. Also legion doesn't matter because the gear is completely fail which everyone has been pointing out since release I believe ? It's a bone thrown at elite wannabe.

You haven't beaten legion so you know jack shit. You say it's not worth while cause you simply cannot beat it. Just like back in the day when my shell was killing PW at 75. The so called leet shells couldn't do it and said they could, but the loot wasn't worth it!

Eat sushi...for legion boss lmao, gtfo out of here man. Maybe you've done a few t1 mobs where ACC is fine. Try the final boss chamber and see how an empy will do. They have -crit% and high evade, which just messes with ukon and vere big time. Legion is the one event where the acc bonus on a relic make them the superior weapons. Have fun hitting for 0 cause your attack is too low vs botulus too, cause you ate sushi.

Spread sheets mean shit when you don't know the exact mob data, or special powers they might have. Have you actually seen a parse where you have 0% crit rate? Cause vs some legion bosses you do, due to their innate penalty to crit rate.

[macross]

dbl post

[dasva]

Comparing just the auto to just the jug is kinda silly especially on DC mobs. Every bst can tell you how huge of a drop in dmg it is for their pet and correspondingly how much more often you have to swap hate. Pet is mostly their for th and to take hits and add a nice little bit to dmg but bst is the one doing most of it

[Omnipotent]

I don't solo in dynamis. I have a real thief there, thus I use gorefang. Lets see some of your bst parses vs dc stuff then. I showed you mine, show me yours. I see quite a few people using gorefang anyways. There's no need to show me how bsts works, a parse will do.

But like I said, the god of bst players will do more than your run of the mill bst farmer. In any case, this is just the automaton. While it might not out dmg your bst+pet, it will be close.

As opposed to a fake thief? Again, no one uses gorefang, not even the fact you don't need the TH, but the TA and evasion bonus you get from a Falcor... or a Dipper far outweighs anything from gorefang. You aren't superior at dynamis, it's not about how much damage you do( Even though I do more), it's about how much money you make in one run. I make over 3M at LEAST a run in dynamis, My best run netted me 6.3M. Solo. Get on my level.

[pchan]

Let's see, 3M per dynamis run so 40 runs for a level 75 one ? Add 22 runs for a level 99 relic in order to buy the marrows, that's 62 runs for a relic. Also with the current price of currency I think you smoke a ton. They go for what, 6k a coin ? You aren't doing 500 coins a run solo on BST, no. You do maybe 300 coins (doubt it) and that makes it 124 runs for a level 99 relic. So basically it takes you more time to to farm a relic on BST than me building a level 99+1 on mnk.

[NynJa]

He's probably counting forgotten's, when they were new and they costed like 100k each. Notice he's not divulging his currency counts...


fixed a grade 1 typo

[dasva]

Oh oh can I join in the exagerated epeen wacing? Cause well I made 3 mil an hour 12 boxing cruor pts getting the currency to make a relic in just 5 days!

[Mercilessturtle]

I'd assume he's counting NM drops, isn't it normal for a bst to kill a couple NMs for their 1-2m drops, then spend the other 90 mins farming currency?

[Byrthnoth]

I would assume it is that. BST can solo several of the dynamis NMs.

[Trix]

What's this about nm's now? Do certain ones have a high chance at dropping 100's/some other expensive stuff?

[Indalecia]

Moepa Stone

[Draginhikari]

I've done Neo Dyn with BST since the original zones were modified and never really thought to do the higher NMs nor have I see other BSTs doing it personally. So I'm not sure how common of a practice it actually is.