Completed Relic/Mythic weapons list

[Prothescar]

Can't be terribly common or the price on stones would have tanked by now

[Odin'sLaw]

Can't be terribly common or the price on stones would have tanked by now

unless something has changed isn't lost fairy ring still unsoloable due to its aura and 1k+ tp moves it spams?

[Byrthnoth]

I'm fairly sure people have claimed to have soloed it. One of the BST pets almost totally resists the breath TP move, and I think I've heard the most dangerous part of the fight is popping it?

It is a 50% drop rate on the Stone, which AHs for 1.4mil on Lakshmi (700k profit per kill).

Additionally there is the chance at 100, but that's probably a ~3-5% drop rate with TH so it's kind of not worth talking about (xidb has 6/167 for Lost NMs).

[BerenTebogo]

It's soloable.

[Romyro]

I’ve asked before in the RQT and was told it’s soloable. But haven’t officially tried it yet.

I have duo’d it (x2 bst) and it wasn’t horrible, but dawns are strongly recommended (a must for solo). All we brought were Etas and things go a little rough at times. Popping is dangerous because you get hit with a high damaging TP move and most of the time a mean poison. Once you pop and recover, it seems like frog kick is the most dangerous move for your pet (even with full –pdt).

[Omnipotent]

Let's see, 3M per dynamis run so 40 runs for a level 75 one ? Add 22 runs for a level 99 relic in order to buy the marrows, that's 62 runs for a relic. Also with the current price of currency I think you smoke a ton. They go for what, 6k a coin ? You aren't doing 500 coins a run solo on BST, no. You do maybe 300 coins (doubt it) and that makes it 124 runs for a level 99 relic. So basically it takes you more time to to farm a relic on BST than me building a level 99+1 on mnk.

I thought you knew everything? Your post is full of laughs.

[pchan]

Nope, you are just full of shit ? I tried selling dynamis drop way before you probably while dynamis bubu drops were still going for 4M. They barely sell at the AH. So w/e. Not worth the time. If you count droparate (from what I remember in bubu it was 1/4 ish) you get less than strict coin famring. My guess is that there are so much CC in the zones that you tried something else ?

[Darkmagi]

Anyways, would love to see your math on how a Ragnarok/Liberator DRK is a shit DD. You ignored that earlier after so boldly claiming that the only relevant 2handers were WAR and Mythic DRG+SAM.

[Byrthnoth]

Drop rate on those items is approximately 50%. They have a further 5% drop rate on 100-coins and can drop normal coins/forgotten items. That makes kills of Lost Fairy Ring worth about 750k on Lakshmi (1.5 stones sell per day at 1.4mil). If you pull 300 currency per run at 7k per piece, that is 2.1 mil which means you'd only have to kill 3 Lost Fairy Rings to match it (2.25mil, minus pet foods/meds). I have to imagine that you can kill three per Dynamis, which would yield an average of 1.5 stones and would be equivalent to farming 300 coins. Solo BST probably can't get 300 coins, so it's probably a better option (at least until you get a Rare stone).

[pchan]

Anyways, would love to see your math on how a Ragnarok/Liberator DRK is a shit DD. You ignored that earlier after so boldly claiming that the only relevant 2handers were WAR and Mythic DRG+SAM.

I don't ignore anything, not my fault if only 2 persons on BG are able to do that, me and motenten. Which of the fail WS would a drk use with liberator anyway?

[Cairthenn]

Far more people are capable. I'm sure none of us really have the time to cater to the every individuals interests in how x does compared to y. I'm pretty sure that's a big factor in why Motenten keeps up with his spreadsheets.

You do it simply to show how ~super amazing~ you are (but somehow end up excessively skewing things in favor of the result you want to demonstrate in one way or another). Congrats you can do algebra. Highfive.

[Darkmagi]

I don't ignore anything, not my fault if only 2 persons on BG are able to do that, me and motenten. Which of the fail WS would a drk use with liberator anyway?

Entropy

[Zag]

Drop rate on those items is approximately 50%. They have a further 5% drop rate on 100-coins and can drop normal coins/forgotten items. That makes kills of Lost Fairy Ring worth about 750k on Lakshmi (1.5 stones sell per day at 1.4mil). If you pull 300 currency per run at 7k per piece, that is 2.1 mil which means you'd only have to kill 3 Lost Fairy Rings to match it (2.25mil, minus pet foods/meds). I have to imagine that you can kill three per Dynamis, which would yield an average of 1.5 stones and would be equivalent to farming 300 coins. Solo BST probably can't get 300 coins, so it's probably a better option (at least until you get a Rare stone).

If you solo it, you will only get 1 stone max. If you duo it, you will split if only 1 stone drops on both pops. If you trio box, then you should be doing 3 solo runs with your bsts instead of killing time with 3 characters in 1 run.

BST averages about 200 coins per run with no competition, fast procs. Near capped Pet gear, master gear and WS build for ruinator.

Weapon HAS to be either guttler, aymur, Kclub, STR magian axe, ridill, Legion Aura axe, maybe empyrean and regain axe might be pushing it... To have enough manpower to reach 200 coins solo.

This obviously depends on clean TE pulls, fast TE pulls, 0 deaths, proper weapons mentioned above, somewhat empty camps, and hopefully your pet has 20-23% Haste.
I don't see a BST getting 300 coins ever solo unless they got a 100 coin from somewhere by luck, quickly, effectively and without downtime which is slim to none IMO or 1-4% to be more exact.

[pchan]

Entropy

I played a little with motenten spreadsheet and insurgency seems better (with liberator) though I admit I didn't extensively try gear selection. The souleater button fails so can't really tell what it looks like with souleater on, but at least you'll be glad to know that liberator does roughly what DRg does with it's mythic (with my myhtic's thread buff and mob), aka like 5% more than monk (...). Also I didn't have time to implement DRK yet in my own mythic thread.

[macross]

As opposed to a fake thief? Again, no one uses gorefang, not even the fact you don't need the TH, but the TA and evasion bonus you get from a Falcor... or a Dipper far outweighs anything from gorefang. You aren't superior at dynamis, it's not about how much damage you do( Even though I do more), it's about how much money you make in one run. I make over 3M at LEAST a run in dynamis, My best run netted me 6.3M. Solo. Get on my level.

You do not do more damage than a pup as a bst. Just not possible even if you have the best possible gear on bst. Don't even claim you can lol. If you're making 3m solo, you aren't farming coins, cause there's no way a solo bst can net that much. If you're talking about selling drops from NMs, a pup can solo anything a bst can anyhow.

[Fievel]

Remember back when this thread was for relics?

[macross]

I have a relic and need 6k more alex so I qualify to post!

[Guitarman]

No, honestly. It's been that long.

[Nightfyre]

Remember back when this thread was for relics?

Went back and skimmed the first few pages for nostalgia's sake, look what caught my eye...

Oh what I would give for 80SMN/40RDM, lol


Galka would become king.

Oh, if you'd only known.

Actually I remember a certain Taru SMN + DRG bitching that they were going to quit because of Convert at 80 and how Taru would no longer be the superior SMN race, lol.

[Fievel]

Hahahahaha, oh wow.