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  1. #11921
    Sea Torques
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    *narrows eyes*

    Is it me or is that cat extra busty?

    *narrows more*

  2. #11922
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    Macross's parse lacks the only meaningful part for comparing. I have parses of my bst + pet in dyna. I was about to post it, but when trying to compare to meaningful data in your parse, I can't find it. There are plenty of ways to screw a parse, and your post did not include the performance summary which actually shows duration and DPS. You wanting to compare just the pets is as ridiculous as comparing mnk to just pup main and pretending the auto doesn't exist at all.

    I have blu, bst and pup all leveled and geared, though I haven't finished skilling up my sharpshot all the way yet (I'm close). I don't see parsing against dc's w/ sharpshot however, because If I do DC's I think I'll need healing. Also, if it was just the auto fighting, that means the master was focusing their attention on maximizing automaton damage. In this case that means stacking maneuvers to they are just right to land those big armor shatterers... which means you're pup dd woudl be severely gimped. You won't be able to maintain that auto output and add really good master output.

    Also @Corey, there are players who have been involved in decoding pet damage mechanics. Jinte over in alla has done some decent work on pup. Falkirk and myself have worked on bst, and kegsay did an exhaustive analysis of smn at level 75 which was really fantastic.

    Byrth has had his fingers in most things. You just haven't been paying attention. Also, even though the exact mechanics have not been decoded, we have a pretty good idea of the relative damage output between pet and master.

  3. #11923
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    I'm just using af3 for pup, woe h2h/buratinos. 1 wind fire thunder manuever only, no stacking to boost ws. Max skill melee/archery/magic.
    Fighting treant/funguar/sheep dc mobs in dyna valk.
    I don't have the dps or efficiency saved sadly. The pup's dps is roughly the same as the auto though. How is your dps compared to your pets?

    I was just showing the auto's dmg compared to a bst pet. it's a pretty big gap. A gorefang pet with pdt axes. Bst mule only has moepapa stone for pet haste however, automaton should be rocking 24% haste, but he's not punching that much since he shoots.

    pup+ auto will outdmg bst+ pet always easily. Not saying bsts suck, just saying pup is higher dps. Remember can sc light with pup+master effectively one shotting a dc mob. Armor shatter puts a potent def down on as well.

    I haven't gone as pup in a long time though, next time i'll get you a more current parse with the updated pup gears. Was playing with doom sword on blu last night vs dc stuff, 30 death shots in 179 fights. Really nice when you stagger and proc hehe.

  4. #11924
    Shallow and Pedantic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omnipotent View Post
    Go solo Lost fairy ring and Lost Nan'tina. You won't. Go solo Raja, get of your E-peen PUP dick, you can't solo everything BST can.
    Originally Posted by macross
    You do not do more damage than a pup as a bst. Just not possible even if you have the best possible gear on bst. Don't even claim you can lol. If you're making 3m solo, you aren't farming coins, cause there's no way a solo bst can net that much. If you're talking about selling drops from NMs, a pup can solo anything a bst can anyhow.
    Still waiting for these solos almighty one

  5. #11925
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    Sorry, not gonna waste my time soloing those when I can 3 box them and get 3 belts in the time it takes you to kill one. They sell very slowly, not worth the trouble unless they drop 100's more. Nor do i feel like bringing tons of mulsims.

  6. #11926
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    Bst does ALOT more dmg then it's pet. That's why inferring comparision between just pets is invalid

  7. #11927
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    Quote Originally Posted by macross View Post
    Sorry, not gonna waste my time soloing those when I can 3 box them and get 3 belts in the time it takes you to kill one. They sell very slowly, not worth the trouble unless they drop 100's more. Nor do i feel like bringing tons of mulsims.
    I use 6 mulsums a fight... and they sell fast as crystals. Cop out

  8. #11928
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    Yep another Ragnarok.

  9. #11929
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    way to be original...

    congrats!

  10. #11930
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    The horn knows no mercy; only wrath

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    Worst strap ever

  11. #11931
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    Aegis wouldnt fit in the SS with a strap equipped!

  12. #11932
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    Quote Originally Posted by Botosi View Post
    Aegis wouldnt fit in the SS with a strap equipped!
    could have manually sorted the inv!

  13. #11933
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    Quote Originally Posted by macross View Post
    could have manually sorted the inv!
    Don't mind him, he's new.

  14. #11934
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    Quote Originally Posted by Botosi View Post
    Aegis wouldnt fit in the SS with a strap equipped!
    First you copy me with Aegis, then Apoc, and now Ragnarok.
    You're getting too much like Mafai.
    Mandau next?

  15. #11935
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    SUCH COPY

  16. #11936
    Champion of the House of Weave
    Sweaty Dick Punching Enthusiast

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    My first relic, also an early birthday present!



    Just SS'd that to spare you the SNES graphics and usual Horlais Peak picture. Also in the picture, my lolAxes for lolBst!

    Huge thank you to:
    Shipp & Kimitri for help with Attestation.
    Grusilug for the 30 loan.

  17. #11937
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  18. #11938
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomiko View Post
    My first relic, also an early birthday present!



    Just SS'd that to spare you the SNES graphics and usual Horlais Peak picture. Also in the picture, my lolAxes for lolBst!

    Huge thank you to:
    Shipp & Kimitri for help with Attestation.
    Grusilug for the 30 loan.
    No congrats for you until you deal with the first annoying trials... SOLO. NO HELP ALLOWED!!!

  19. #11939
    Gimp like a Pro!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vigilia View Post
    grats but how hard can it be to press f11? game looks so ugly if you dont set the lighting to normal.

  20. #11940
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    god damn i love how petty everyone is

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