Completed Relic/Mythic weapons list

[Bardlet]

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Completed on 10.12.12. Should be level 85 by next week. ^^

Aww, congratulations man! So happy you could *finally* finish this, and I'm happy I could lend a hand along the way! :thumbup:

[Kyte]

He doesn't and was quite adamant about finishing the dagger first while building it.

That's so bizarre @_@

[Tomiko]

Thanks to Vestal for the 2 Marrow loan!

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The visible gear is town gear since I had Abyssea Trophies to burn.

[Damane]

grats tomiko!

[drwaffles]

Congrats Tomi~

[macross]

Finished my Wagonrok today too, for legion use!

[Yugl]

Should have finished your SCH macross





BAM!

[Mafai]

Should have finished your SCH macross


BAM!

Very funny coming from you

[Yugl]

Very funny coming from you

Said the Paladin who stayed in alliance when aggroing Gallu during Mul and couldn't hold Hall of Ki mobs! And Apamajas spelling issue was done between runs, so the staff did equip like a champ.

[Byrthnoth]

Apajamas is the only right way to spell it.

[Yugl]

Apajamas is the only right way to spell it.

That's the way I wrote the spellcast between runs lol. Luckily, I tested before we zoned into mul. Too bad you can't test absolutely-sucks-tanking before entering Mul!

[Suljin]

Not sure if this goes here or the other mythic thread (maths). I've been considering it for a long time, but finally decided I want to make a mythic. I am undecided though between kkk and Nirvana. I play pup/smn/sch/blm/whm and smn/pup are my two favorite jobs. (smn is my best geared job, everything else is geared well at the very least). I know if I made a verethragna, as soon as I get to the heavy metal stage I'd stop upgrading. With either the nirvana or kkk I could upgrade it pretty much all the way to PW (and I'm sure I could do it to get the 3 drops, though after that I'd probably stop) Thats one reason why I'd prefer a kkk instead. Also with Neo salvage incoming, Alex will be more available. Anyways, I'm torn between which of the two weapons I should go for, which would benefit me most, etc. Any suggestions?

(And no I don't need lolpup, lolmeleesmn, etc etc.)

[Gokku]

from what i understand KKK is a game changer for pup id say do that.

[Suljin]

Thats what I'm leaning towards mostly, since obviously smn wouldn't benefit 100% from nirvana or the +%dmg to garland of bliss, as I shouldn't be meleeing on anything that I would really need the nirvana on. However, I'm wondering if the avatar mab is enough to make up for it etc. (And cmon, the nirvana looks awesome! lol)

[Byrthnoth]

Nirvana is something like +15~20% damage to magic BPs on Summoner and the best Perp staff. Garland of Bliss is still going to be bad and you may still want at least one complete Avatar staff to macro in for BP Delay. The Nirvana aftermaths are pretty much irrelevant even though they apply to BPs and even if you can maintain them because of the way avatar damage and BPs work. Basically, you can think of every Avatar BP like a WS with really high first-hit fTP (like, 12.0). So if you miss the first hit of Predator Claws, for instance, you feel it. Ever done a Pred Claws for 200 damage? That's the other two hits, and that's the damage boost you'd get from OAT on WS.

Kenkonken gives PUP approximately the same H2H delay as Monk and boosts their best WS by 30%, along with essentially eliminating Overloads. It's perfect for the job, but even if you have the perfect weapon on PUP you're still on PUP.



I'd also recommend adopting a "wait-and-see" approach to Alexandrite instead of emotionally putting all your eggs in one basket. Neo-Salvage may:
1) Offer no useful rewards
2) Include bosses with En-death, so it isn't worth doing
3) Not drop Alexandrite
etc.

[Suljin]

Avatar staves are moot in regards to delay, as BP delay is capped from other gear and macrod to not interfear with the actual BP damage. But I do see your point, and realizing that you either benefit from the MAB, or melee and get aftermath to benefit any physical bps to some extent, which would be a hassle on some things, limiting the benefit.

And yea, I'm not planning on starting alexandrite yet, I have a hundred-some stocked from when I did salvage originally, and for now will in free time go focus on the other requirements. (though if neosalvage offers meh rewards I'm going to cry, as I loved salvage and really hope this will bring a big population back to it for an extended period of time, similar to what it did originally)

Thanks for the input, def helping. I may just .dat swap a nirvana in for my own pleasure since it sounds ultimately not the best choice. (though who knows, could always go do it down the road! I've heard the only thing you have to do over when doing a 2nd mythic is the alex. and assualts?)

[Byrthnoth]

You need another 150k tokens and
100k amps as well.

[Crescendo]

Kenkonken gives PUP approximately the same H2H delay as Monk and boosts their best WS by 30%, along with essentially eliminating Overloads. It's perfect for the job, but even if you have the perfect weapon on PUP you're still on PUP.

I was under the assumption that Kenkonken doesn't give PUP "approximately the same H2H delay as Monk", but actually a much lower delay than MNK.

MNK has Martial Arts VII, Base Delay of 280
PUP has Martial Arts V, Base Delay of 320

(99)Verethranga is +42DMG/+51 Delay; 280+51 = 331 Base Delay for the MNK
(99)Kenkonken is +41DMG/+49 Delay; 320+49 = 369 Base Delay for the PUP
(99)Kenkonken also has "Enhances Martial Arts Trait V" built-in of -50 delay; 369-50 = 319 Base Delay for the PUP

I don't believe MNK have any Martial Arts gear in current standard TP sets, Tantra Cyclas+2 for -5 delay I suppose? (326 Delay)
While PUP can also toss in Cirque Necklace (-10 Delay) and Cirque Pantaloni+2 (-10 Delay) (Both of which are pretty standard for TP sets on PUP) for another -20 bringing them to 299 Base Delay... which is considerably lower delay than a MNK.


Unless I am totally wrong in my calculations, feel free to correct me!

[Mercilessturtle]

Also, a slightly lowered alex price leads to more people thinking "gee, I can do a mythic too". The increased demand limits how hard the prices can drop. So don't count on cheap alex.

[Byrthnoth]

314 vs 299 was within the realm of approximately the same for me. Also, you might not want to use one of the MA pieces because dropping from 300 to 299 loses you 0.1 TP per hit. Also, there is a margin of error on KKK's MA enhancement because I tested it using TP per hit.