Completed Relic/Mythic weapons list

**NynJa** · 2012-10-24 17:19

Originally Posted by Suljin

I have a hundred-some stocked from when I did salvage originally

Thats not gonna get you very far broski, it takes roughly 350 days of salvage to get 30k alex. With a "a hundred some", you're shaving off 2 days max.

**Crescendo** · 2012-10-24 17:22

Originally Posted by Byrthnoth

314 vs 299 was within the realm of approximately the same for me. Also, you might not want to use one of the MA pieces because dropping from 300 to 299 loses you 0.1 TP per hit. Also, there is a margin of error on KKK's MA enhancement because I tested it using TP per hit.

Ahhh really? I had no idea. That's a major bummer for PUP lol.

**Suljin** · 2012-10-24 17:23

Yes, tokens and amps are things I'd start working on first, though I think I'm not far off on either of them (need to check) Basically I see mythics as an initial huge investment and then much much less to take to 99 (I don't need the afterglow, not at least for what, 150 PW items? meh esp when its 15? att) whereas the emp is a med investment for a few then increases even more at the end.

Haha I know I'm not far with alexandrite, just was pointing out I had a few saved up and not planning on pursuing strongly until I see how the market goes after neosalvage. =D

**NynJa** · 2012-10-24 17:42

well if you have 90 minutes a day, you might as well farm salvage and get a head start. SE did say NNI was gonna fix the Alex situation...

**Suljin** · 2012-10-24 17:49

Yea if I have the free time I'll def start that, worst case I can profit from alex if things sadly turn sour later. Whats the min requirement now, is it 3 people?

**detlef** · 2012-10-24 17:49

There's no reason not to start farming Salvage for alexandrite immediately. In addition to getting a head start on alex, you'll probably want to make sure you've completed sets for all your jobs in preparation for the update.

Remember that there are people sitting on millions and millions of gil with nothing to do and that you'll be competing with these when the Salvage update hits. If you haven't built up a good stockpile before then you'll definitely be sorry, regardless of how plentiful alexandrite becomes.

Minimum is 3, I generally farm thf and either rdm/sch.

**Suljin** · 2012-10-24 17:54

Completed sets? So you think they will require people to take previous sets and upgrade them with new ones? That would really suck, I'm honestly hoping not. Besides, what will sch and dnc do then?

**detlef** · 2012-10-24 18:08

I don't have the wherewithal to dig it up but I'm fairly certain they said that the Salvage upgrades would be similar to the Limbus ones. Improvements on old gear as well as new gear.

**bigbomb** · 2012-10-24 18:08

Originally Posted by Byrthnoth

I'd also recommend adopting a "wait-and-see" approach to Alexandrite instead of emotionally putting all your eggs in one basket. Neo-Salvage may:
1) Offer no useful rewards
2) Include bosses with En-death, so it isn't worth doing
3) Not drop Alexandrite
etc.

First thing that comes to my mind is that as soon as Neo-Salv comes out.. and "supposedly" more alex will hit the market.. it'll just make more people want to do Mythics. Since more buyers will be needing 30k it's doubtful much will change from how it is now.

**Damane** · 2012-10-25 01:54

Originally Posted by bigbomb

First thing that comes to my mind is that as soon as Neo-Salv comes out.. and "supposedly" more alex will hit the market.. it'll just make more people want to do Mythics. Since more buyers will be needing 30k it's doubtful much will change from how it is now.

That depends how hard the blinker nerf did hit the normal people. Besides its not just like relics or empys where you just can jump on the upgrade wagon. The prequesets of mythics are time consumeing until you get to the alex part

**pchan** · 2012-10-25 03:22

Stop acting like blinkers was the main and most important source of money in the game, it's getting annoying. There has been a clusterfuck of gil for years in the game that wasn't remove to the game due to AH serving basically no purpose. This gil will stay in the game still for years. Therefore people will afford to buy buy 20k alex for years.

**Damane** · 2012-10-25 03:50

Originally Posted by pchan

Stop acting like blinkers was the main and most important source of money in the game, it's getting annoying. There has been a clusterfuck of gil for years in the game that wasn't remove to the game due to AH serving basically no purpose. This gil will stay in the game still for years. Therefore people will afford to buy buy 20k alex for years.

stop acting like you know anything

**NynJa** · 2012-10-25 04:21

Originally Posted by pchan

Stop acting like blinkers was the main and most important source of money in the game, it's getting annoying. There has been a clusterfuck of gil for years in the game that wasn't remove to the game due to AH serving basically no purpose. This gil will stay in the game still for years. Therefore people will afford to buy buy 20k alex for years.

Those marrows you sold to fund mdks rifts were paid for by blinkers.

**Kincard** · 2012-10-25 04:36

Originally Posted by pchan

Stop acting like blinkers was the main and most important source of money in the game, it's getting annoying. There has been a clusterfuck of gil for years in the game that wasn't remove to the game due to AH serving basically no purpose. This gil will stay in the game still for years. Therefore people will afford to buy buy 20k alex for years.

If you're refering to shit like quest spamming/VW NPCing/bookburn, that's nothing compared to what blinkers were bringing in. There's still lots of gil flowing in, yeah, but blinkers were ridiculous in the amount they were adding to the economy (Which is why they were nuked at all). It's been in the game for years now and it's naive to think nothing will change. I'm still pretty baffled why it took THIS long for them to get around to changing it.

The prequesets of mythics are time consumeing until you get to the alex part

That was true until the three kings and Odin all became easily do-able by a 6-man team, and only because Einherjar requires 6. I guess someone without Captain can take a while to finish that up, but it's not like they can't gather Alex while they're at it.

I think for most people back when Mythics first came out the biggest cockblock was 3 kings because nobody ever wanted to do them, but you needed quite a few people to beat them. Now you can just duo all of them, the most annoying part is just getting them to be up.

**pchan** · 2012-10-25 04:48

Originally Posted by NynJa

Those marrows you sold to fund mdks rifts were paid for by blinkers.

The game doesn't rely around what nynja can or can't do. All the gil in the economy comes, at one point or another, by the gil sold to NPC, wether it is blinkers, yogourt or peble . The best gil done comes from selling dynamis coins, and the fact that at one point or another that gil came from selling blinkers or cruor gear doesn't matter. People didn't farm cruor then buy currency (because that's what you are implying in this thread). People likely sold various stuff and got gil. There has been enough gil in the game for a while now so that farming currency oor w/e and selling it is way more profitable than farming cruor unless you are stupid enough to spam cruor with 18 accounts.

So basically I'm just laughing at the blanket claim that people won't be able to farm alexandrite because blinker no longer sell. There is a lot more people that build relics and mythics than those that farmed cruor and spam level 75 relics with it. I think I pretty much established that the best gil is done spaming ADL ?

**noodles355** · 2012-10-25 08:29

Originally Posted by pchan

farming currency oor w/e and selling it is way more profitable than farming cruor unless you are stupid enough to spam cruor with 18 accounts.

ITT: Making gil in the fastest possible way whilst also making an IRL profit is stupid

**macross** · 2012-10-25 10:10

That's all I do now, is try to complete salv sets in preparation for 2.0
I'm hoping for 18 man salvages for the best stuff, with single group for weaker upgrades.

**Taint** · 2012-10-25 10:19

Originally Posted by pchan

The game doesn't rely around what nynja can or can't do. All the gil in the economy comes, at one point or another, by the gil sold to NPC, wether it is blinkers, yogourt or peble . The best gil done comes from selling dynamis coins, and the fact that at one point or another that gil came from selling blinkers or cruor gear doesn't matter. People didn't farm cruor then buy currency (because that's what you are implying in this thread). People likely sold various stuff and got gil. There has been enough gil in the game for a while now so that farming currency oor w/e and selling it is way more profitable than farming cruor unless you are stupid enough to spam cruor with 18 accounts.

So basically I'm just laughing at the blanket claim that people won't be able to farm alexandrite because blinker no longer sell. There is a lot more people that build relics and mythics than those that farmed cruor and spam level 75 relics with it. I think I pretty much established that the best gil is done spaming ADL ?

The very large increase in available gil has lead to more people buying dynamis currency hense more people farming dynamis currency then once completed led to the purchase or marrows.

While yes gil is created through a lot of avenues, blinkers resulted in billions over a short period of time. Those billions were spent on a lot of items as the gil circulated. (including your marrows) Just a couple years ago a 100mil was an incredible amount, now its normal.

**NynJa** · 2012-10-25 10:27

Until everyone who created that billions of gil via 3rd party software means gets balanced!

**barber2006** · 2012-10-25 11:30

I think what he is saying is that there is no working gil sink to bleed the system of the gil that the fountain of crour brought in and I'm inclined to agree with him. Sure gil will change hands for dyna currency, marrows, alexs, NNI bought gear, etc. But all of the gil that was created by the crour fountain will take a long long time to leave the system. And that is assuming that even after the crour nerf that sinks outweigh fountains, which with the lack of volume on the auction house is a pretty bold statement. There may be a redistribution of wealth, but its not like the trillions of gil that entered the system is going away overnight.

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