Completed Relic/Mythic weapons list

[Chojja]

nvm, thought we were talking about the annihilator

[Xrave]

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Marsroom - KoNtinue - Cerberus server

[Taint]

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Marsroom - KoNtinue - Cerberus server

Gratz

and that explains why finding Jades have been tough for a while!

[Starr]

pizza

take THF off birds and you might aswell get another DD

[Cutriss]

Very interesting... will be good to know if "Occasional double damage" activates on Barrage and weaponskills. The only beef I have with Trueflight/Leaden Salute is that they are both Magical damage and require large amounts of magic attack bonus to be useful damage wise. The flipside though is that the ammo damage has no reflection on f inal damage and since it is magical it can never miss.

I was just commenting this past weekend how I thought we'd never see a Gastraphetes built, because I had guessed it would basically force you to stick to Trueflight full-time.

The "double-damage" is there in place of a Double Attack Aftermath effect, which means that in order to trigger the aftermath, you have to get to 300 TP, and then once it's triggered, you have to again reach 300 TP without the aid of any DA-like assistance as the rest of the mythic weapons would have. Luckily, it looks like this gent has a KC, so it's less of an issue, assuming you're hitting for non-zero with a E-rated weapon... >.>

So basically, you trade being able to WS outside of your Aftermath in exchange for a 50%-ish increase in damage.

I'm no RNG, so maybe you can get TP fast enough to stick in a Detonator here or there, I dunno, but it seems like the only way this weapon would be balanced along with the others (ha) is if the 2x proc caused you to gain extra TP.

[Xrave]

Gratz

and that explains why finding Jades have been tough for a while!

Actually we've barely been buying shells for a long time, all the shells we used for Mars we have had since last year.

Now we need more and yea they're expensive

[TummieGaruda]

I was just commenting this past weekend how I thought we'd never see a Gastraphetes built, because I had guessed it would basically force you to stick to Trueflight full-time.

The "double-damage" is there in place of a Double Attack Aftermath effect, which means that in order to trigger the aftermath, you have to get to 300 TP, and then once it's triggered, you have to again reach 300 TP without the aid of any DA-like assistance as the rest of the mythic weapons would have. Luckily, it looks like this gent has a KC, so it's less of an issue, assuming you're hitting for non-zero with a E-rated weapon... >.>

So basically, you trade being able to WS outside of your Aftermath in exchange for a 50%-ish increase in damage.

I'm no RNG, so maybe you can get TP fast enough to stick in a Detonator here or there, I dunno, but it seems like the only way this weapon would be balanced along with the others (ha) is if the 2x proc caused you to gain extra TP.

I don't think it would be that big of a problem to get 300% TP, just more of an issue of how to keep up the AM3 full time. If Kraken Club is not obtainable, there is always the Temperance Axe which is fairly easy to obtain if you do Sea which has a high DA rate to begin with at the cost of burning thru Virtue stones. If meleeing is not an option, RNG could sub /SAM and roll with a 5 hit build (Gear permitting). I think this is pretty nice for short fights or where you can have Sam tossing the RNG a Shikikoyo here and there. Honestly, I think that all weapons should occasionally deal double damage as a hidden stat exc. weaponskills.

[TheTaru]

I don't think it would be that big of a problem to get 300% TP, just more of an issue of how to keep up the AM3 full time. If Kraken Club is not obtainable, there is always the Temperance Axe which is fairly easy to obtain if you do Sea which has a high DA rate to begin with at the cost of burning thru Virtue stones. If meleeing is not an option, RNG could sub /SAM and roll with a 5 hit build (Gear permitting). I think this is pretty nice for short fights or where you can have Sam tossing the RNG a Shikikoyo here and there. Honestly, I think that all weapons should occasionally deal double damage as a hidden stat exc. weaponskills.

Did you really just suggest using Temperance Axe + Virtue Stones on RNG?

[TummieGaruda]

Did you really just suggest using Temperance Axe + Virtue Stones on RNG?

Yes, if you want to melee for TP for the initial build to 300% before a fight. It's not a bad alternative to a Kraken Club (E skill vs B-) if for the initial 300%.

[Cutriss]

I don't think it would be that big of a problem to get 300% TP, just more of an issue of how to keep up the AM3 full time.

That's basically what I'm getting at. I don't think it'd be hard to go from AM3 to AM3, but you wouldn't get time to do much inbetween other than pew pew.

[zephr]

Yes, if you want to melee for TP for the initial build to 300% before a fight. It's not a bad alternative to a Kraken Club (E skill vs B-) if for the initial 300%.

Wouldn't you lose your TP when switching your virtue stones to a weapon+ammo?

[TheTaru]

I'm guessing he just forgot that stones take up the ammo slot.

[Seraph]

Wouldn't you lose your TP when switching your virtue stones to a weapon+ammo?

Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner!

[Chojja]

Yes, if you want to melee for TP for the initial build to 300% before a fight. It's not a bad alternative to a Kraken Club (E skill vs B-) if for the initial 300%.

/golfclap

[TummieGaruda]

My bad I could've sworn you could have both Virtue Stone and ranged item equipped at the same time, however Vstone removes your ranged item due to it being considered a charged item.

[Severance]

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[TummieGaruda]

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Honest mistake no one is perfect, I believe I was thinking backwards because you can go from Ranged/Ammo -> Virtue stone without losing TP, which incidentally enough unequips your ranged weapon without TP loss.

Anyways, AM3 with Double Damage proc on Slug Shot (If it can deal double damage on weaponskills) should make for an interesting Epeen Screenshot.

[Titanss]

My bad I could've sworn you could have both Virtue Stone and ranged item equipped at the same time, however Vstone removes your ranged item due to it being considered a charged item.

this is lulz

[Revitozu]

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Congratulations Cauter of Shiva on Aegis! :D Sorry I'm so big, and you're so tiny that you're not in the screenshot. '-'

[Milkster]

Congratulations Inui@Kujata on Relic Gun! Completed 06/21/09.
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Good job! ^-^

Wow thats been a relic in the making for quite sometime now. I remember Inui was upgrading it before I left Kujata and that was ages ago @.@. Congrats nonetheless.