Completed Relic/Mythic weapons list

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And on a taru;;

[Arthars]

hi yall

i havent check this thread for long long time and was also 50% devoted to FFXIV so i missed quite a few info regarding relic/mythic

friend told me mythic GKT is top notch mythic aside from polearm

yay? or nay?

3 years ago i made the "wrong" decision to trade GKT for quest, did all assault etc etc until the 3 deed stage, which i also invested about 1000 alex

i regreted and stop the thought of mythic (wanted to do dagger actually) but upon hearing friend abt 99 mythic GKT being badass now, i might continue it, giving new salvage spits alex like easy

does the OAT apply to WS?!

(all in all, i understand mythic in general is inferior to most relic/emp, but im saying if you can make 1)

[Karbuncle]

As far as I know, the Mythic GK is Badass. I mean -Super- Badass.

[Cairthenn]

Kogarasumaru is pretty much the weapon with the most consistently high DPS. There are obviously situations where this is not the case, but it's undeniably one of the strongest weapons in the game.

OA2-3 can proc on the first hit of WS.

[dasva]

It's still strong but this last update kinda hurt it in ways that are hard to math. Just didn't quite rape it as much as it did most the other mythics

[pchan]

hi yall

i havent check this thread for long long time and was also 50% devoted to FFXIV so i missed quite a few info regarding relic/mythic

friend told me mythic GKT is top notch mythic aside from polearm

yay? or nay?

3 years ago i made the "wrong" decision to trade GKT for quest, did all assault etc etc until the 3 deed stage, which i also invested about 1000 alex

i regreted and stop the thought of mythic (wanted to do dagger actually) but upon hearing friend abt 99 mythic GKT being badass now, i might continue it, giving new salvage spits alex like easy

does the OAT apply to WS?!

(all in all, i understand mythic in general is inferior to most relic/emp, but im saying if you can make 1)

I showed with numbers that it's the only one that doesn't suck. Which is very different from being awesome. Basically if you can afford full time AM3 and don't count the time wasted rebuilding AM3 it beats all other weapons, however this is not possible out of zergs where you start at 300%. So in practice it's garbage like all mythics. This is the DPS comparison on a level 120 target with ver high buffs (angon etc) for different weapons, using very good gear for all DD listed

pup DPS : 345.883476
Vere DPS : 480.278106, spharai : 415.238154
glanz : shijin : 464.860000, ascetic : 467.790600
ryunohige DPS : 407.704707, relic DRG : 262.614129
Ukko 465.253833
conqueror 454.075056 
koga 485.378989
liberator 386.212992
ragnarok 402.204694

It's in the math section.

[Raelia]

What bit about the update?

[Yugl]

No locking means you cannot keep AM3 between waits.

[Konda]

pup DPS : over 4500
mnk DPS : OMFG OVER 9000!!1!
glanz : shijin : Over 8000, ascetic : Over 8000
ryunohige DPS : potato, relic DRG : carrot
Ukko: brocolli
conqueror: peas
koga: over 9000. (potatoes)
liberator: parsnip
ragnarok: sprouts

It's in the math section.

I put Pchan's post into google translate to make it english.

[Nekradarken]

I put Pchan's post into google translate to make it english.

Lol. It is annoying that Pchan keep posting those numbers like an absolute reference from SE while many ppl have shown that his maths is wrong. I wish a mod can look into this matter.

[Hirronimus]

A court always needs a Jester.

[pchan]

Lol. It is annoying that Pchan keep posting those numbers like an absolute reference from SE while many ppl have shown that his maths is wrong. I wish a mod can look into this matter.

Noone showed my math is wrong, mister 80 posts. This is the typical butthurt reaction when your job is not first though, this is to be expected. Instead of asking a mod to ban me for posting facts, use your efforts to post on the OF to explain the devs that their jobs are not balanced, and that their mythic suck. Oh and yeah my number are reference because

(1) They match motenten SS.
(2) I corrected numerous bugs in his SS thanks to the mythic thread included overestimated pdif value for 2 handers.
(3) Nobody else ever did comparison.

[Konda]

Noone showed my math is wrong, mister 80 posts. This is the typical butthurt reaction when your job is not first though, this is to be expected. Instead of asking a mod to ban me for posting facts, use your efforts to post on the OF to explain the mod that their jobs are not balanced, and that their mythic suck.

I don't recall you ever posting your maths.

I do recall your "results" being massively wrong to what more than one other person came up with; "Mr 2582 posts".

[Deader2818]

wait, did Pchan just pull the fucking post count card?

[pchan]

I awakened the FFXAIH troll fest.

[pchan]

Beside, those numbers are always inferior in practice due to the AM3 bullshit so you will have to wait that either me or motenten decides to implement "keeping AM3 up".

[ccl]

Pchan math doesn't seems wrong itself, but when you see his gearset for job like drk lr up, or his situation (no souleater, no blood rage rotation, no tp bonus warcry, not using legion/newabju gear, buff always up, double mad and no cor ? and assume max buff always up)

The only wrong statement is "with very good gear" wich isn't true for drk, so can assume his gear choice are wrong for most job but mnk, pup and sam (his sam gear choice wasn't good but he got corrected in his mythic thread).

And when you correct his gear set, he will come back with "but it's only 5-10% better, doesn't make a difference"

To answer Arthar question, Koga is one of the best mythic and is very good and worth it if you like sam, as long as you don't expect koga sam to be the best dd in every event, you shouldn't be dissapointed.

[Fake]

Beside, those numbers are always inferior in practice due to the AM3 bullshit so you will have to wait that either me or motenten decides to implement "keeping AM3 up".

Your math probably fails to mention where you completely optimise mnk gear for the target while using generic tp sets for other jobs. Probably counting inferno howl or some similar en damage which again massively benefits mnk but isn't practical.

Also these numbers seem to have changed in mnks favor even more since your last 'simulation' in your mythic thread, so pease feel free to fully enlighten us on whats happening or shut the fuck up.

[pchan]

The only wrong statement is "with very good gear" wich isn't true for drk

It's true for DRK and all other jobs. It's listed. The DRK QQ were arguing that I didn't assume max augment on sky gear or other bullshit that would change the DPS by a few% only.

Your math probably fails to mention where you completely optimise mnk gear for the target while using generic tp sets for other jobs. Probably counting inferno howl or some similar en damage which again massively benefits mnk but isn't practical.

Also these numbers seem to have changed in mnks favor even more since your last 'simulation' in your mythic thread, so pease feel free to fully enlighten us on whats happening or shut the fuck up.

You are not worth my time, trying backing up your claims ?

Buff are marchx2 minuetx2 haste dia2 enfire angon. None is advantaging MNK more than any mythic. All the QQ drk were assuming endark full time in their QQ and I answered them that it's dumb to use in the first palce when enfre is 5 minutes and twice more damage. And stop active like it's a massive boost. Only reason mnk tops in this case is high level difference making crit and crit damage build way better than 2Handed DD. Enfire is a mediocre boost, affects all jobs, and the thread has DPS listed without enfire too, if you bothered reading.

[Konda]

It's true for DRK and all other jobs. It's listed. The DRK QQ were arguing that I didn't assume max augment on sky gear or other bullshit that would change the DPS by a few% only.

When you're claiming mnk is a better job by a few % then it makes a difference.

The entire situation you model, from gear choice to buff choice, is biast towards MNK so you can try and justify yourself in saying "DRK and WAR aren't best DD"