Completed Relic/Mythic weapons list

[Prothescar]

Would only consider Yoichi due to its ability to be used by more than one job. Damage should still be in Annihilator's favor, and you have the option of popping a last stand or two between Coronachs if for some reason that's necessary without swapping weapons, though that's hardly a boon I suppose.

[noodles355]

Prothescar, I thought you were better than just stating the bandwagon option without actually explaining why. Not attacking, just surprised and a bit disappointed).

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Edit: Maffs pls. I alreayd weighed the pros/cons earlier on but I have no idea how it translates into actual comparable damage.

(No I have neither. Yes, I will be making one after Mandau and Arma 99).

[Prothescar]

My eyeballs alone dictate that the D and fTP advantage outweigh what small gains you'd get out of the superior WSC on Namas, but if you want math, using Generic's sets on FFXIAH:

Namas - 160STR 168AGI
Coronach - 125DEX 168AGI

Target with 100VIT or so which is probably lowballing

Namas: 177 + 32 + 131 = 340 * 2.95 = 1003
Coronach: 203 + 32 + 100 = 335 * 3.2 = 1072

6.9% in favor of Coronach.

Annihilator winning during the TP phase of course. 12 higher fSTR cap on Yoichi would begin favoring it on sub-fodder mobs, but no one cares about those and you wouldn't be using either of these WSs on them anyway. Still wouldn't be enough to bridge the gap.

[Detzu]

My legs are trembling, I can barely speak, finally got my Apoc 99

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[Taint]

Grats!

[Darkmagi]

Are we counting the range bonus on yoichi over annihilator? Generally most things that you would anni/yoichi to would be desirable to stay 15+ away. Racc bonus on namas might be enough to use curry over pot-au-feu/sushi if required too.

[Detzu]

Grats!

Thanks^^

[Fake]

Are we counting the range bonus on yoichi over annihilator? Generally most things that you would anni/yoichi to would be desirable to stay 15+ away. Racc bonus on namas might be enough to use curry over pot-au-feu/sushi if required too.

In those situations (odin and legion are the only 2 that really come to mind) you should be getting cor and brd buffs anyway. Yoichi will never beat Anni on any content that currently exists if you aren't using retarded setups.

[Darkmagi]

How much of a bonus is the range difference though? Is that quantified? edit: well if ffxiclopedia is to be trusted, it's a 3-4% damage difference. Not that I really trust that source. I do think people tend to blow the damage difference way out of proportion though. Most of the shit you would use last stand on would be better suited on another job, so I don't really like that argument all that much. Sure it's generally the optimal ranger weapon, but I don't think so by an incredible amount.

[Dotsudoku]

Just more legendary weapon-based hyperbole. There has never been anything wrong with Yoichi

[Fake]

How much of a bonus is the range difference though? Is that quantified? edit: well if ffxiclopedia is to be trusted, it's a 3-4% damage difference. Not that I really trust that source. I do think people tend to blow the damage difference way out of proportion though. Most of the shit you would use last stand on would be better suited on another job, so I don't really like that argument all that much. Sure it's generally the optimal ranger weapon, but I don't think so by an incredible amount.

There isn't a huge difference between the 2 but annihilator wins in the aspects that are the greatest consideration when using rng. If you have Sam and want to use with that then sure Yoichi is going to provide greater utility purely from the fact you can use it on 2 jobs rather than 1, but from a rng standpoint Annihilator is the superior weapon in every way except the distance you stand from the mob (which shouldn't factor if you are buffing appropriately).

I don't agree that yoichi is entirely useless due to the fact it can be used on Sam.

[EjinCaitsith]

Semi on topic, but does relic aftermath overwrite mythic lvl3 aftermath? Could use namas arrow for some skillchain purposes with koga.

Relic Lv. 1 aftermath overwrites even Mythic aftermath Lv. 3.

[Darkmagi]

That sucks, pretty bad design.

[Mafai]

Thanks to hexed jacket buyers / cruor burns (RIP) and everyone who did Nyzul / Assaults with me

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[Fievel]

Very nice, grats Mafai!

[cdgreg]

Congrats!

[Aurara]

Dayum Mafai, beasting it up still, grats!

[Cairthenn]

Neat, congrats. I sort of want to make one to be cool and such, but I despise Samurai far too much. And I barely touch Yagrush as is.

[Virg]

Grats. Also, Koga and Soboro in inventory made me smile a little.

[ChronicCettness]

:D finished!!! Thanks to my friends (for time and free alex!), Reckless LS (for financial reasons), and the countless bazaars I purchased alex from in 5 days!
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