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  1. #12741
    Sho
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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
    You were cold as ice.

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    Yawn. I'll let you have it, since you like sucking yourself off. Enjoy your victory.

  2. #12742
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    Both of you had shitty ass Accuracy hehe. He only did 32 ws though looks like he was slacking. Comparing him to the other Ukko war there who did 52 WS and top dmg.

  3. #12743
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    Quote Originally Posted by Detzu View Post
    Try to not repeat blankly what you heard, there's always a meaning to numbers. Maybe it's not the meaning you're looking for though.
    So what? I've won parses on my goddamn Blm, and all it means is that the alliance sucks. There's too many variables to control for in vw for a parse to ever mean jack shit about anything.

    I'm not blankly repeating what I've heard, I've simply parsed enough in that event to know how completely worthless it is as a gauge of anything besides basic shit like hit rate and who was afk/proccing/dead. You guys want to have a pissing contest go for it, but you're proving exactly nothing with that shit. Parse something else worthwhile if you want to compare jobs.

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    Yeah just having a few procs of yours pop up on some jobs can destroy your parse completely and that's not even the bad things that happen lol

  5. #12745
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    Arguing with Detzu, etc.

  6. #12746
    I pullout to go pee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sho View Post
    Yawn. I'll let you have it, since you like sucking yourself off. Enjoy your victory.
    Good point

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyltia View Post
    So what? I've won parses on my goddamn Blm, and all it means is that the alliance sucks. There's too many variables to control for in vw for a parse to ever mean jack shit about anything.

    I'm not blankly repeating what I've heard, I've simply parsed enough in that event to know how completely worthless it is as a gauge of anything besides basic shit like hit rate and who was afk/proccing/dead. You guys want to have a pissing contest go for it, but you're proving exactly nothing with that shit. Parse something else worthwhile if you want to compare jobs.
    To compare jobs people are already doing math. If I were leading some runs I'd use parse to make some adjustments to the parties.

  8. #12748
    But I don't want my title changed
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    Bech I generally find your posts pretty funny but you're trying a little too hard lately.

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    I pullout to go pee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fievel View Post
    Bech I generally find your posts pretty funny but you're trying a little too hard lately.
    Tough times man, tough times

  10. #12750
    The Once and Future Wamoura
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    this is awful you're both awful

  11. #12751
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    I didn't mean to start this... I just wanted to point out how bad DD on my server can get. I didn't know people would argue about how a war only doing Ukyo's fury must be losing damage to proccing. I'm sorry

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    But I don't want my title changed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khajit View Post
    I didn't mean to start this... I just wanted to point out how bad DD on my server can get. I didn't know people would argue about how a war only doing Ukyo's fury must be losing damage to proccing. I'm sorry
    HOW DARE YOU

  13. #12753
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    Only reason I posted parse is to show it's not just your server.

  14. #12754
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    Often times people will just look at the final numbers and claim they were best, without anal-izing why. But both wars did only spam ukkos, one had shitty acc, other has less shitty acc. Could be shitty atmas, not using atmas, forgetting to change from mage atmas, not having lvl 15 atmas, not using food, not using their potions, gettign stripga'd cause group sucks at procing. Seems you beat that war cause you had bard party and he didn't.

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    What about my Akvan parse from the last page where I beat the Apoc Drk on Cor, who used the same/a similar amount of proc WSs, and were in the same party so were recieving the same buffs (brd+cor), except that he also had whm haste where I didn't. That's an example of a fail player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles355 View Post
    What about my Akvan parse from the last page where I beat the Apoc Drk on Cor, who used the same/a similar amount of proc WSs, and were in the same party so were recieving the same buffs (brd+cor), except that he also had whm haste where I didn't. That's an example of a fail player.
    Looking at that parse, he wasn't fighting full time based on # of swings. You ws more than him as well. Sometimes melee gotta hold back cause you kill it too damn fast if you don't and dont get good lights. I hold back all the time on weak ass shit all the time like akvan. Possible he died to glare or got deathed, your parse doesn't say. Some people just go and proc and don't fight after that. But looking at both your avg ws dmg I'd say both you guys were fail.

  17. #12757
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    Quote Originally Posted by macross View Post
    But looking at both your avg ws dmg I'd say both you guys were fail.
    That's pretty normal for an 85 Arma if you don't have Khepri body. Pretty sure the only upgrades I can make are Khepri Body, Sigyn hands and Moonshade, though I could be wrong.


    Thanks though.

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    Yeah I can't tell you the amount of times my old armageddon rng parsed 1st and almost always in top 3 on pretty much any vw fight. And that was in mage pt. No storms usually no rolls or songs and before the ranged delay update. Doesn't mean wf rng is the bomb. It's good and all but alot of people were just terribad lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkdreamer View Post



    After starting this damn thing nearly 6 years ago, quit for a few years, and finally came back and finished it. A huge thank you to everyone that helped me with this over the years.
    best post in the last 5-6 pages (minus sho finally claiming his 3+ year victory over tizona!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothescar View Post
    Mandau is one of the best relics for farming better relics
    also fixed since i'm bored at work

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