Completed Relic/Mythic weapons list

[Darkmagi]

Got my koga upgraded earlier today, but I'm on a really awful computer that would make for some really embarrassing NES quality pics. Feels good to AM3 again!

[Kidnoftle]

Did they increase the ws dmg boost on Relics/Mythics by any chance? (Doubting it)

no

[noodles355]

no

ballbags.

[Draylo]

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[Tachi]

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Avatar: Lv+2 = HP+4, +30 to all stats
Increases "Blood Pact" damage = +40%

[dasva]

Hmmm looks like it will be kinda closish with balsam depending on of course how much avatar mab and bp dmg you already have. Of course a vast improvement on anything that doesn't use mab

[Sechs]

Closeish? Really? I would have said that with 40% it should be waaaay above Balsam. And it works on physical BPs as well!

[dasva]

Well it's friggin 120 mab lol. Let's see assuming you use 15% bp dmg from body and earring 40% becomes equal to 120 mab at +245 pet mab. Being blm mobs they start out with 40 but still getting 205 without your weapon or body might prove diffficult. Anything less will favor mab. Change body to skirmish and it would be 175 which might be doable... but then gotta factor in the extra int. But that's a bit messier since if you do that you need to factor in tp/merits and mob int plus the I could only find formulas on other wiki and they seem to be wrong so I settled and just said closish. With all the stat vomit and the rediculous pet mab smn been getting I'm sure it will become definitely better soon

[Byrthnoth]

IIRC INT has a huge impact on SMN BPs. They're typically very low base damage spells multiplied to infinity by fTP, MAB, etc. The real way to solve this question is just to ask Tachi which one does better damage, though.

Anyway, finished Terpsichore this morning and all of the things I tested for (AM1/2 duration, WS damage, etc.) came up negative. Looks like it was just a straight base damage increase as they said.

[bechyni]

Avatar: Lv+2 = HP+4, +30 to all stats
Increases "Blood Pact" damage = +40%

Congrats Papesse

[dasva]

IIRC INT has a huge impact on SMN BPs. They're typically very low base damage spells multiplied to infinity by fTP, MAB, etc. The real way to solve this question is just to ask Tachi which one does better damage, though.

Somewhat like other wiki has it at 513-1029 iirc depending on tp. But on the other hand it has int multiplier only at 1.5 as well. On the other other hand I've recently gone out and used some and got numbers that are much higher than using that formula so idk... was actually recently wondering if there are updated ones that actually work

[Bukadan]

grats papesse

[Asymptotic]

A day late but!



44 levels later and still only +1 finishing move.

[Sechs]

Because having +2 would break the game inorite

[Sechs]

You fail for not upgrading KKK first btw! /thumbdown

[Asymptotic]

KKK are still 95 because Scoria are nonexistent and fuck ZNM.

[dasva]

KKK are still 95 because Scoria are nonexistent and fuck ZNM.

But but now you can use log in points to get T1 trohpies so you only have to kill the t2s, T3s, T4s and pandy.... <.<. Why they couldn't have just given us T3s or something for 1k points idk

[Tachi]

With the equipment I use Balsam Staff add about 150 more damage than Nirvana. I would need a little more of Pet MAB, like 20-30 (or perfect augments on the Hagondes set) to surpass Balsam.

[ChronicCettness]

With the equipment I use Balsam Staff add about 150 more damage than Nirvana. I would need a little more of Pet MAB, like 20-30 (or perfect augments on the Hagondes set) to surpass Balsam.

I'm usually a stickler for doing optimum damage on summoner. However this upgrade to Nirvana makes me happy enough to have no issue discarding Balsam staff. The physical BP's gained a huge boost here... especially with AM 3 active.... Flaming crush is going to wreck stuff... hard... Thanks for the Info Tachi, 1/300 on my Nirvana woooo

[Darkmagi]

I thought multihits on BPs actually didn't add shit for damage? I remember talk of it being equivalent to a melee attack? Unless that was changed.